The Ring Mag: Vlad Loses To Holmes, Tyson, Liston. Really?

[The Surgeon]

Liston Knocks Wlad into the cheap seats in a hurry

[New England]

Liston had a fine technical game, good head movement, long reach, a solid chin, and very powerful punches.

I think he'd beat Wlad easier than either of the other two.

when considering any historic HW matchup the chin is most important


these guys are good enough to hit each other.



wladimir would get knocked out by most historic great HW

most of them.

especially the punchers with good chins and either and ability to land from longer range, (liston had a bigger reach and a better jab than wladimir's)

or can worth their way inside, but not so far inside where they can get tied up (like tyson, who was a master at keeping his hands free and firing just the sort of shots that wladimir eats when he's trying to tie a fast guy up.



also, the two guys that went the distance with klitschko recently (ibragimov and haye) were both midly fleet of foot

all great HW outside of marciano were very fleet of foot compared especially to ibragimov.

[Sadistic]

Look at all these racist blacks, butthurt Brits, xenophobic Americans, etc. in this thread.

You guys are pathetic.

All of the best black heavyweights have been exposed, destroyed and humiliated by the Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans.

The same thing is happening in many other weight classes too.

Soviets/Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war/iron curtain.

Now Soviets/Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing and are dominating the higher weight classes.

We're also dominating the amatuers. Most of those great amatuers will become great pros.

This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.

Eastern European fighters are superior.

The Klitschkos are the negrocutioners.

Wlad and Vitali are the two most dominant fighters of all time.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

[SLIMY RAT]

Wlad would get destroyed by the likes of Lewis.. i know that for sure

[WladIsTheChamp]

Wlad easily destroyes all of the greats of the past, live with that haters. The sooner you accept the fact that you are witnessing the greatest HW of all time, the sooner the nightmares will stop.

[Sadistic]

Liston Knocks Wlad into the cheap seats in a hurry

Another bitter butthurt Brit.

I remember you saying Wlad would get "destroyed", "KTFO", "knocked out cold", etc. by Haye.

[The Big Dunn]

WLad and Vitali are decent to very good fighters. Wlad certainly is a HOF'er. But they have dominated the division at a time when it is as weak as its ever been. Its no different than Floyd and Manny, 2 HOF'ers who are in a WW division that is not to great.

[SirTomJones]

I will say this.

People discredit the brothers on here far too easily.

People also tend to look back in history and see some boxers as better than they actually were.

I have no doubt that in 20 years time people will look far more favourable on the K brothers.

[The Big Dunn]

Wlad easily destroyes all of the greats of the past, live with that haters. The sooner you accept the fact that you are witnessing the greatest HW of all time, the sooner the nightmares will stop.

Curious. Based on what? His domination of lower talented fighters?

[bojangles1987]

Look at all these racist blacks, butthurt Brits, xenophobic Americans, etc. in this thread.

You guys are pathetic.

All of the best black heavyweights have been exposed, destroyed and humiliated by the Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans.

The same thing is happening in many other weight classes too.

Soviets/Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war/iron curtain.

Now Soviets/Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing and are dominating the higher weight classes.

We're also dominating the amatuers. Most of those great amatuers will become great pros.

This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.

Eastern European fighters are superior.

Wlad and Vitali are the two most dominant fighters of all time.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

This guy's a trip. Gotta love it.