Why did Hagler not Knock out leonard/duran - Page 2

theproof

the difference in the ray,duran fights is hagler didn't go the body. hardly at all. he just ran his mouth in there. i was for leonard/duran agains't marv but if he would have focused on the body he would have made them quit in the later rounds. everyone looks at the head shots of marv vs tommy but look at the replay and do not look at any of haglers headshots. look at how every time he hit tommy to the body he knocked him to the side. took away the legs.

rightsideup

I did not realize Tommy hearn his right had vs marvin so did duran which probly means marvin had one tough nogin. I also believe there was a sense of urgency on marvins part in the hearns fight due to a potential fight stopping cut.What a fight!

talip bin osman

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Originally Posted by Sugarj

6 Points:

1) Duran and Leonard had better punch resitance than Thomas Hearns.

2) Duran and Leonard didn't piss Hagler off the way Thomas Hearns did in round 1.

3) In the case of the Leonard fight, Hagler simply was in decline. He wasn't the force he was back in 1985.

4) When Hagler met Duran, Duran was in decent shape and was still pretty wily.

5) Hearn's weakness and lack of apparent stamina in the Hagler fight was blamed on a sports massage before the fight. Realistically, that fight should have lasted longer.

6) Hagler's punching power was respectable but not startling, he was no pound for pound middleweight Tyson equivalent. Mugabi and indeed Hearns were much heavier punchers at middleweight.....later Julian Jackson too.

how can anyone still not be convinced after reading this?

Sugarj

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Originally Posted by talip bin osman

how can anyone still not be convinced after reading this?

Thats very sweet of you matey.....

Dynamite76

Despite his talent, and destruct and destroy mentality, I think Hagler was in some ways too respectful to Duran and Hagler in certain ways.Subconsciously, he wasn't the strongest person, and people, especially Leonard, could manipulate him.

Barnburner

hagler wos just being nice.

marv was a gr8 guy to be with he didnt want to hurt no1

Mike Haynes

I wish Tommy backed off and boxed the SHIT out of Hagler....finish him on cuts late.

Mintcar923

Had Tommy boxed the way Ray did he'd have beaten Marvin. I also think being Marvin and Ray were good friends that he didn't want to punish him, just retain his title. I didn't see Hagler-Duran so I can't comment on it, yet.

rightsideup Interim Champion Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 734 Rep Power: 6 Points: 5,200,169,948.57 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,200,169,948.57 Donate	I did not realize Tommy hearn his right had vs marvin so did duran which probly means marvin had one tough nogin. I also believe there was a sense of urgency on marvins part in the hearns fight due to a potential fight stopping cut.What a fight!

Dynamite76 Undisputed Champion Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,176 Rep Power: 12 Points: 65,376.75 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 65,376.75 Donate	Despite his talent, and destruct and destroy mentality, I think Hagler was in some ways too respectful to Duran and Hagler in certain ways.Subconsciously, he wasn't the strongest person, and people, especially Leonard, could manipulate him.

Barnburner TheTartanSoldier Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 8,153 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 37 Points: 480,101,760,270.52 Bank: 6,599,049,250,389.60 Total Points: 7,079,151,010,660.11 Donate	hagler wos just being nice. marv was a gr8 guy to be with he didnt want to hurt no1

Mike Haynes Interim Champion Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 871 Rep Power: 3 Points: 1,000,005,022,772.86 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,000,005,022,772.86 Donate	I wish Tommy backed off and boxed the SHIT out of Hagler....finish him on cuts late.

Mintcar923 Interim Champion Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 549 Rep Power: 7 Points: 132,731.43 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 132,731.43 Donate	Had Tommy boxed the way Ray did he'd have beaten Marvin. I also think being Marvin and Ray were good friends that he didn't want to punish him, just retain his title. I didn't see Hagler-Duran so I can't comment on it, yet.