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P4P, who wins "stylistically" Lomencheko or GGG?

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  • #11
    ggg is a 1 division champ. what about broner 4 division chmp vs ggg? p4p broner whoops him easy. even if broner moved up to 160 it would be close.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
      Golovkin can't effectively fight going backwards; Lomachenko can. Pretty much, end of story.

      The moment a shark stops swimming, it's dying
      Sure he can. He fought going backwards against lemieux and against stevens at times.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
        Golovkin can't effectively fight going backwards; Lomachenko can. Pretty much, end of story.

        The moment a shark stops swimming, it's dying
        Story continues...

        Golovkin wouldn't have to go backwards, to beat him you have to have a great inside game, be physically strong and have a punch that GGG would respect.

        The only thing Loma's got is inside game. He's P4P better than Golovkin but he'd lose to him due to a bad stylistic match-up.

        End of story.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by daggum View Post
          ggg is a 1 division champ. what about broner 4 division chmp vs ggg? p4p broner whoops him easy. even if broner moved up to 160 it would be close.
          Very true, it would be similar to Adrien Broners destruction of Gavin Rees. lol

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Szef View Post
            Story continues...

            Golovkin wouldn't have to go backwards, to beat him you have to have a great inside game, be physically strong and have a punch that GGG would respect.

            The only thing Loma's got is inside game. He's P4P better than Golovkin but he'd lose to him due to a bad stylistic match-up.

            End of story.
            Not necessarily. The key to beating Golovkin, as I see it, is to not let him "snowball" on you; get into that stalking rhythm, where all he's doing is coming forward behind that touch jab and looking to fire his mid-range shots.

            Golovkin's still undefeated, but Ouma had his successes, Rosado had his successes, Brook had his successes, Willie Monroe Jr had his moments, Murray had his moments, etc.

            Golovkin likes to fight one way; the fighter that doesn't let him do that beats him; shotgun jab as he's coming in, footwork to manipulate range, making him defend shots and moving before he could even try to counter, working really well to the body, etc.

            There's a reason why Golovkin has been matched as carefully as K2 has decided to match him.

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            • #16
              I voted GGG. Loma has a beautiful style that is like no other style I have ever seen. He might be the trickiest and most difficult to hit clean of anybody fighting today. He is able to land his own punches with ease will avoiding return fire. But you can't really separate the style from the man who is using that style. You said who's style would be the most dominate. I think GGG with his style combined with his iron jaw and deadly two handed punching power to both head and body is the most dominate boxer in the sport of boxing today. He always wins by KO. He loses fewer rounds per fight on the judges cards than any other boxer including Ward, Loma and Mayweather. His style isn't as pretty as Loma's style but it's even more effective. Loma lost to Salido even if he would likely win a rematch. To date GGG has never come remotely close to losing a fight. He would be a big betting favorite over any 160 pound boxer in the world.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                Not necessarily. The key to beating Golovkin, as I see it, is to not let him "snowball" on you; get into that stalking rhythm, where all he's doing is coming forward behind that touch jab and looking to fire his mid-range shots.

                Golovkin's still undefeated, but Ouma had his successes, Rosado had his successes, Brook had his successes, Willie Monroe Jr had his moments, Murray had his moments, etc.

                Golovkin likes to fight one way; the fighter that doesn't let him do that beats him; shotgun jab as he's coming in, footwork to manipulate range, making him defend shots and moving before he could even try to counter, working really well to the body, etc.

                There's a reason why Golovkin has been matched as carefully as K2 has decided to match him.
                None of the fighters you've mentioned had power he'd respect. Against known power punchers like Lemieux and Stevens he fought very cautiously.

                It's strength and power that will beat Golovkin, not fluid movement and beautiful defense.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  ggg is a 1 division champ. what about broner 4 division chmp vs ggg? p4p broner whoops him easy. even if broner moved up to 160 it would be close.
                  If Broner fought GGG at 160 I would sell my house and bet all the money on GGG. Hell, Porter and Maidana beat Broner up. GGG would KO him in the first minute of the first round.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    ggg is a 1 division champ. what about broner 4 division chmp vs ggg? p4p broner whoops him easy. even if broner moved up to 160 it would be close.
                    Lay off the drugs

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                      Not necessarily. The key to beating Golovkin, as I see it, is to not let him "snowball" on you; get into that stalking rhythm, where all he's doing is coming forward behind that touch jab and looking to fire his mid-range shots.

                      Golovkin's still undefeated, but Ouma had his successes, Rosado had his successes, Brook had his successes, Willie Monroe Jr had his moments, Murray had his moments, etc.

                      Golovkin likes to fight one way; the fighter that doesn't let him do that beats him; shotgun jab as he's coming in, footwork to manipulate range, making him defend shots and moving before he could even try to counter, working really well to the body, etc.

                      There's a reason why Golovkin has been matched as carefully as K2 has decided to match him.
                      Minimal success. Many fighters have had success against mayweather as well and against ward. Dosen't mean ****.

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