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  • #81
    Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View Post
    Interesting...Pavlik is no near GGG and was able to weather the storm. GGG has a better chin and more power so how do you come up with that theory? Taylors claim to fame was beating an aging fighter....what did he do after that?
    Styles make fights..

    Taylor had huge power, and would by far be the best fighter Golovkin has ever faced.. Taylor can put Golovkin out of he lands flush, or at least do serious damage.. Pavlik and froch both showed heart.. Golovkin has never faced adversity in the ring vs a top level guy.. We have no idea how he will react.

    Prime taylor has more of a chance of beating ggg than any current middleweight..

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Thats the thing GGG hasnt fought anyone within a bulls roar of Bhop , you will see what Im saying if he fought Ward , Hopkins has fought overall much better fighters .

      Look at Bhops resume and look at Gs , no comparison and WW Brook is Gs best opponent , there are a number of guys on Hopkins resume that would mop the floor with all of Gs opponents .
      Like who? Jones, Kovalev, Calzaghe, Taylor? He lost to all of them....handily. GGG is dong the same thing Hopkins did, cleaning out his division while he still can. When the time comes GGG too will move up. Dont get me wrong, Hopkins is a great fighter and had an awesome career but he beat the smaller guys and lost to the big names.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
        Taylor and Hopkins can both fight off the back foot as well as come forward. Both of these guys are a really BAD style matchup for Bumlovkin.
        You dont know that for sure. GGG still has the best chin and most power out of the three. All it takes one shot from GGG and both of those guys are out cold.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          Styles make fights..

          Taylor had huge power, and would by far be the best fighter Golovkin has ever faced.. Taylor can put Golovkin out of he lands flush, or at least do serious damage.. Pavlik and froch both showed heart.. Golovkin has never faced adversity in the ring vs a top level guy.. We have no idea how he will react.

          Prime taylor has more of a chance of beating ggg than any current middleweight..
          He may have a good shot but how can you say GGG has shown no heart when he had all those amateur fight and almost 40 pro fights. Never down in his career, how guys can say that? Lets be fair here.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View Post
            He may have a good shot but how can you say GGG has shown no heart when he had all those amateur fight and almost 40 pro fights. Never down in his career, how guys can say that? Lets be fair here.
            He has never been in real danger.. What happens if taylor lands the same blows that Brook did.. Ggg would be in a world of hurt... How he reacts we don't know..
            I'm not saying ggg has no heart, but we really don't know either way.. But what is certain is that taylor always made guys walk thru hell to beat him

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View Post
              Like who? Jones, Kovalev, Calzaghe, Taylor? He lost to all of them....handily. GGG is dong the same thing Hopkins did, cleaning out his division while he still can. When the time comes GGG too will move up. Dont get me wrong, Hopkins is a great fighter and had an awesome career but he beat the smaller guys and lost to the big names.
              All of those losses he was 40+ years old with the exception of a damn near unbeatable Roy Jones. And no, Taylor did not by any means beat him "handily", both fights were extremely close and controversial. Calzaghe was a very close fight as well, 43 year old Hopkins biggest problem post 40 years of age, which is the sole reason he lost three of those fights (Taylor & Calzaghe). The only guys who legitimately beat Hopkins without question was Roy Jones, back when Hopkins was an unknown contender, Chad Dawson at age 46 or 47 and of course Kovalev at age 49 which was just insanity for any man to fight a guy like Kovalev while pushing 49!

              In any case, prime Bhop most certainly would have beat Gennady, it may not have been easy but he wins for sure. People often forget just how good a prime Hopkins was, some of this is simply has to do with younger generation of fans not watching Hopkins during his prime years and only caught him post Oscar, which he was already starting to lose a step or two at age 38 or whatever it is. He started to slow down a lot as far as his work rate went and he had to rely more and more on his ring IQ Rather than using his physical abilities.

              A prime Hopkins could hang with any middleweight in the history of the sport. Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, et al. He may not have beaten everyone but I can't see any great middleweights that would dominate him. Hell, I think he could have beat Hagler at Hopkins best. Gennady, I can't say the same. Part of that is because of his style of fighting, the old saying styles make fights and a pure master boxer could beat Gennady. The other part, which is no fault of his own, is we haven't seen Golovkin against other great fighters, which we have with Bernard.

              At the end of the day, Hopkins is an all time middleweight and all time pound for pound fighter with obviously a hall of famer with a remarkable career. Unfortunately for Golovkin, he got dicked around for a long time by his former German promoter that wasted a lot his career followed by an embarrassing amount of fighters flat out ducking him (Canelo, Felix Sturm, Saunders, N'dam, Eubank, Quillin) and guys not willing to fight him (Sergio Martinez, Cotto, Jacobs, etc.).

              I'm a big fan of Golovkin and even bigger fan of Hopkins. Both are amazing fighters and their middleweight reigns are very similar in regards to the struggles each endured (Don King/politics refused to allow Hopkins to unify belts against other title holders for years, and Gennady similarly has struggled big time to get the top guys and title holders in the division to fight him). The biggest difference so far is that Gennady hasn't got his "Trinidad" yet or his money fight in "Oscar". Just comparing the two fighters, Hopkins is the more skilled fighter of the two, Gennady is the more punishing. In a head to halead match up, Hopkins absolutely loved to fight pressure fighters with power, that was his bread and butter. It's a mythical fight of course but all we can go on is evidence in the ring. We've seen Hopkins fight and best guys with the style of Gennady. We have yet to see Golovkin fight anyone with Hopkins style and skill set (not that there are any current guys like Hopkins at middleweight but nonetheless we haven't seen it).
              Last edited by ИATAS; 09-17-2016, 10:29 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View Post
                You dont know that for sure. GGG still has the best chin and most power out of the three. All it takes one shot from GGG and both of those guys are out cold.
                Hopkins had a great chin. He took some Monster shots at middleweight and always took them, besides when he was knocked down in Panama which probably had a lot to do with the high altitude that he was not accustomed to considering he absolutely annihilated the guy in the rematch. I would favor Gennady over Taylor though. He didn't like heavy pressure and his chin could be cracked not to mention his stamina issues and mental lapses in the ring (Hopkins didn't know that when they fought since it wasn't really exposed until he fought Pavlik).

                Gennady isn't really a one punch KO guy, he's extremely heavy handed, the heaviest hands I've seen in the middleweight division in a very long time, so he's more of a heat you down over rounds type of guy. I absolutely think because of his relentless pressure and heavy hands, he would have stopped Taylor, given Taylor's weaknesses. Hopkins though, no I don't think so since not only did Hopkins have a great chin, more importantly he was extremely hard to hit flush (one of the biggest reasons his career has lasted so long). On top of that, a prime Hopkins had INCREDIBLE stamina. Definitely a guy that should have fought in the 15 round era, his stamina and work ethic was out of this world (again, prime Hopkins, not 40 year old Hopkins).

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                  GGG holds no advantages apart from punch power and is a pretty small middleweight overall, Hopkins was a monster at 160, he had the speed and reflexes of a middleweight in the frame of a super middleweight or light heavyweight, he was a freak of nature to be honest. I could definitely see GGG getting stopped in the latter part of the fight after taking a sustained beating.

                  GGG is one of the best middleweights of the last 20 years, but Hopkins belongs with the top 5 middleweights of all time, there is a difference. I see this already but in time - you will retract too.
                  Hopkins was a KO machine in his prime. Bernard KO's ALL of Bumlovkin's KO streak opponents with ease...

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
                    When it comes to age, GGG is way ahead of where b-hop was at 34.

                    Compare B-hops resume at 34 to GGG. It's not fair to compare his now, he didn't even get the big fights until mid 30's too. Until beating Tito everyone said he hadn't best anyone, which wasn't exactly true then, as it isn't for GGG now.
                    Hopkins has the W over Glen Johnson and the Road Warrior is better than *anyone* on Bumlovkin's resume.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                      Hopkins was a KO machine in his prime. Bernard KO's ALL of Bumlovkin's KO streak opponents with ease...

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