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What Can a Fighter Do Against a Hugger AND a Ref Who Breaks up Infighting?
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostIf your a fighter who likes to work hard and throw punches constantly and you are fighting a hugger it seems to me you would want the referee to order a break to get the hugger off you. When Broner fought Porter and Maidana he couldn't handle their hard two fisted attack so he started hugging like a damn octopus and wouldn't let go. Broner is very strong and it's hard to escape his bear hug. Mosley and Berto are two other strong huggers. The ref has the power to order a break and take points away for excessive holding. The ref can tell two tied up fighters to punch their way out but he has no authority to make them punch their way out or take a point away if they don't punch their way out. All he can do if they don't feel like punching their way out is order them to break and physically break them. In fighting only works when both fighters are throwing punches. If your opponent is hugging you it's hard to get much work done on the inside. That's when a good referee will make the hugger stop hugging. You can legally punch a fighter who is holding you. What is illegal is to hold your opponent with one hand and pound away with the other hand. Many fighters get away with lots of holding and hitting and some referees don't enforce this rule.
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Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View PostMe, too. When one guy keeps clinching and looking for the ref to break it up, the refs who do it seem like they are just babysitters at that point.
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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostI assume the fix is in!! I like the ref who makes the clincher let go, and says, fight you way out. This is boxing not fencing!
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Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View PostYou mean like this? Old Joe was way too involved in this one.
Edit: As to what you can do about the ref? I'm not so sure. I guess if you just actively work to create space in the clinch itself the ref might give you more leeway to work there. Maidana got some good opportunities to work Mayweather on the inside uninterrupted. Just gotta avoid the full on under the armpit hug you know, cause that's basically a guaranteed break just cause nothing will get done from there except each dude punching the other in the back of the headLast edited by Jiub; 04-21-2016, 11:25 PM.
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Originally posted by Jiub View PostRef was **** no doubt but Floyd was hardly a hugger in that fight, he tooled Hatton on the inside. Honestly i feel like this fight actually answers the OP's question. What can you do to avoid the hug? Get your arms between your bodies so that if they try to wrap their arms around you there's too much room between each fighter. He does this to Hatton plenty and is able to simply push him off with his shoulder and arms to make space for short inside shots. I can't post an image at the moment but look at the 39:10 mark of the Golden boy upload of that fight to see it in action.
Edit: As to what you can do about the ref? I'm not so sure. I guess if you just actively work to create space in the clinch itself the ref might give you more leeway to work there. Maidana got some good opportunities to work Mayweather on the inside uninterrupted. Just gotta avoid the full on under the armpit hug you know, cause that's basically a guaranteed break just cause nothing will get done from there except each dude punching the other in the back of the head
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