Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[Shape up]

Blood is manipulated by dilution if 750ml is pumped in dickhead

[travestyny]

This is the NSAC rule, quit easy to comprehend for the normal individual, you I'm not so sure about dickhead

Shut up, bltch.

[ADP02]

Man you are falling off .... just admit and move along to the next battle.

But here is what Diaz had said:
"Back in 2009, Nick Diaz told the LA Times his method for avoiding positive marijuana tests despite frequently smoking weed and listening to jams. “I can pass a drug test in eight days with herbal cleansers. I drink 10lbs of water and sweat out 10lbs of water every day. I’ll be fine.” Unpleasant as it sounds, this method has proven 90% effective for generations of high school kids, job applicants, and people on probation. Unfortunately for Diaz, the precaution failed on one of three fight-night tests and now it’s costing him his career."


"In his best attempt to articulate the issue at hand, Diaz said, “I didn’t test positive. And they raised the limit. They didn’t say, ‘You can’t be using any THCs.’ It’s not a full banned substance. It’s banned after a certain percent. Or after a certain nanogram, or whatever you call it. I wish I had the terminology so I could stand here in front of this camera and sound smart. But I fight. That’s why I fight. That’s what I do.” "



Even Diaz is telling you that he uses!


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FAIL! Nope, you are. Diaz even admits to using and to what he does to avoid being caught. Diaz, like Floyd, tried to beat the system by diluting .... which means masking the true result.


The controversy is about Diaz's ban and why he was banned. I do not think that someone should be banned from the sport for so long for this violation but that is not my point. BUT he was caught like 3 times for the same thing so you are wrong!!!

The point is that even when the urine sample was below the threshold (sg test), the WADA approved LAB couldn't come up with a positive result. As you, Diaz and everyone knows, Diaz does use the substance and just by checking out the sq results, you know what Diaz was trying to do. Diaz was trying to dilute his urine sample so that he would not have a positive result.


If you cannot even admit to this then there is no hope for you. You do not even have to say that you are wroooooong .....

This is not rocket science...well, maybe for you it is.


Let's see. Who would you believe in this situation?

1. AN accredited WADA lab which followed protocol perfectly

2. An unaccredited lab that did not follow protocol:
A. did not have the athlete seal the container but rather had their DCO seal it
B. did not leave the athlete's name off of the container so that it was known who the sample was from
C. Takes less urine than accredited labs, which is known to make findings less accurate
D. Found marijuana ten times higher than the accredited lab.

You also have the fishy business of:
1. NSAC testing Diaz three times in one night, and deciding to use different labs for some reason, as if WADA accredited labs can't test for marijuana.

2. NSAC going after a lifetime ban on Nick Diaz.


There were 3 tests. 2 are consistent. One is way different. The one that is different was from an unaccredited lab that admit that they didn't follow protocol for sealing the containers and didn't follow protocol for keeping the donor anonymous.

And this is your proof that specific gravity tests don't work? Really?



You're far more stupid than I ever thought.

When you talk the way you do, its because I know that you know that you are WRONG!!!

Man you had me laughing! Thanks!

Here we go!

The NSAC does NOT need to use a WADA accredited LAB!!! This is NOT USADA its the NSAC!!!! They can use any LAB.

NSAC uses Quest Diagnostics to conduct tests for drugs of abuse such as marijuana. And GOT a positive result!


Nobody is saying that one LAB was better than the other. They just used a different protocol. Quest's protocol resulted in a positive test. Even the WADA approved LAB said this (read below). Its just a different protocol.


"The WADA-approved method consists of reading specific gravity of samples, while Quest relies on creatinine levels."

"Creatinine is a protein found in urine that just happens to be a pretty good one to measure how concentrated the urine is," said Daniel Eichner, executive director of the SMRTL lab. "For whatever reason, drugs of abuse labs, like Quest, use that, while we use specific gravity. I don't want to argue about which is better or worse, that's just the way it is."


BTW - Its not that one found a positive result and the other found a negative result. The negative results were due to the urine samples being too dilute!!! Why were the urine samples too dilute? Nick Diaz told you why. He drinks like a fish to try to dilute his urine samples.

Finally, this is NOT Diaz's first time down this path. Its his 3rd time that he was caught!


Here is Diaz pulling another one of Floyd's tricks just a few months ago. Diaz didn't want to get tested. He asked to delays 5 to 6 hours the test. I wonder what Diaz was doing during that time? :

"Nick Diaz and his brother Nate have long been controversial figures in the field of mixed martial arts. On Monday, video of older brother Nick arguing with a USADA drug tester surfaced online. It appears Diaz had been out partying and didn’t want to take a mandatory random drug test until the next day.

The drug testing agent claims that if Diaz doesn’t take the test it will result in a two-year suspension, but Diaz repeatedly claims the tester needs to come back in “five or six hours.” Diaz appears to have eventually taken the test."

[travestyny]

When you talk the way you do, its because I know that you know that you are WRONG!!!

Man you had me laughing! Thanks!

Here we go!

The NSAC does NOT need to use a WADA accredited LAB!!! This is NOT USADA its the NSAC!!!! They can use any LAB.

NSAC uses Quest Diagnostics to conduct tests for drugs of abuse such as marijuana. And GOT a positive result!


Nobody is saying that one LAB was better than the other. They just used a different protocol. Quest's protocol resulted in a positive test. Even the WADA approved LAB said this (read below). Its just a different protocol.


"The WADA-approved method consists of reading specific gravity of samples, while Quest relies on creatinine levels."

"Creatinine is a protein found in urine that just happens to be a pretty good one to measure how concentrated the urine is," said Daniel Eichner, executive director of the SMRTL lab. "For whatever reason, drugs of abuse labs, like Quest, use that, while we use specific gravity. I don't want to argue about which is better or worse, that's just the way it is."


BTW - Its not that one found a positive result and the other found a negative result. The negative results were due to the urine samples being too dilute!!! Why were the urine samples too dilute? Nick Diaz told you why. He drinks like a fish to try to dilute his urine samples.

Finally, this is NOT Diaz's first time down this path. Its his 3rd time that he was caught!


Here is Diaz pulling another one of Floyd's tricks just a few months ago. Diaz didn't want to get tested. He asked to delays 5 to 6 hours the test. I wonder what Diaz was doing during that time? :

"Nick Diaz and his brother Nate have long been controversial figures in the field of mixed martial arts. On Monday, video of older brother Nick arguing with a USADA drug tester surfaced online. It appears Diaz had been out partying and didn’t want to take a mandatory random drug test until the next day.

The drug testing agent claims that if Diaz doesn’t take the test it will result in a two-year suspension, but Diaz repeatedly claims the tester needs to come back in “five or six hours.” Diaz appears to have eventually taken the test."

The controversy is about Diaz's ban and why he was banned.

Wrong. People were livid that they would accept this other labs work and not even acknowledge the tests from the accredited lab.


Instead of analyzing the three drug tests independently, they chose the anomaly. That in itself, is not a bad thing if you can prove the other two drug tests were less valid. But they were not. The two drug tests the NSAC decided to ignore were following the WADA guidelines ( the strictest guidelines in sports, the same guideline the court admitted later to wanting to adopt in the future!), however this time they were pushed to the side for a lab whose chain of custody procedures has been described as what they use for the ‘department of transportation’. (Interesting sidenote: That is a very easy drug test to cheat!)
https://theclinchreport.com/tag/pat-lundvall/



Nevada uses WADA as a standard for trusted drug testing, but when Diaz passed two WADA-certified tests, a third test with different standards was the one used to determine his guilt
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/nick-diaz-hearing-punishment-reveal-more-wrong-with-commission-than-fighter-091515

In spite of this stated deference to WADA, when it came to reviewing Mr. Diaz’s test results, the commissioners ignored the first and third samples, which produced negative results at a WADA-accredited laboratory.
http://www.fightbookmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/150930_Letter-to-GovSandoval_NSAC-Diaz_FINAL.pdf


Forget the facts and existence of evidence, let’s get down to the business of punishment. For the NAC to ignore the negative test results from Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratories (SMRTL), a WADA-approved testing facility specializing in the detection of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs), in favor of a "questionable" result from a non-approved and non-specialized PED facility is simply astonishing. For Chairman Aguilar to also state, "I think we do have a positive test today," is an appalling disregard of the full and careful consideration of all the facts. I believe it is an abuse of power under the color of authority, and a direct affront to the very concept and practice of due process. For NAC to further justify their decision based on the assertion that they don’t have the budget to use a WADA-approved testing facility is like saying, justice and due process only applies if it comes at a deep discount and is affordable. The NAC decision does not appear to be based on fact or evidence, but on emotional arrogance.

Henry has been tested well over a hundred times under the USOC/USADA program and never had *a positive test result. That is because he has never used a banned substance, but also because, in each and every case, the testing was done by competent and unbiased personnel under a credible program utilizing WADA accredited labs.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/9/16/9338385/henry-cejudo-refuses-to-fight-in-nevada-in-light-of-nick-diazs

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Shut up, bltch.

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Wrong. People were livid that they would accept this other labs work and not even acknowledge the tests from the accredited lab.


Instead of analyzing the three drug tests independently, they chose the anomaly. That in itself, is not a bad thing if you can prove the other two drug tests were less valid. But they were not. The two drug tests the NSAC decided to ignore were following the WADA guidelines ( the strictest guidelines in sports, the same guideline the court admitted later to wanting to adopt in the future!), however this time they were pushed to the side for a lab whose chain of custody procedures has been described as what they use for the ‘department of transportation’. (Interesting sidenote: That is a very easy drug test to cheat!)
https://theclinchreport.com/tag/pat-lundvall/



Nevada uses WADA as a standard for trusted drug testing, but when Diaz passed two WADA-certified tests, a third test with different standards was the one used to determine his guilt
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/n...fighter-091515

In spite of this stated deference to WADA, when it came to reviewing Mr. Diaz’s test results, the commissioners ignored the first and third samples, which produced negative results at a WADA-accredited laboratory.
http://www.fightbookmma.com/wp-conte...Diaz_FINAL.pdf


Forget the facts and existence of evidence, let’s get down to the business of punishment. For the NAC to ignore the negative test results from Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratories (SMRTL), a WADA-approved testing facility specializing in the detection of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs), in favor of a "questionable" result from a non-approved and non-specialized PED facility is simply astonishing. For Chairman Aguilar to also state, "I think we do have a positive test today," is an appalling disregard of the full and careful consideration of all the facts. I believe it is an abuse of power under the color of authority, and a direct affront to the very concept and practice of due process. For NAC to further justify their decision based on the assertion that they don’t have the budget to use a WADA-approved testing facility is like saying, justice and due process only applies if it comes at a deep discount and is affordable. The NAC decision does not appear to be based on fact or evidence, but on emotional arrogance.

Henry has been tested well over a hundred times under the USOC/USADA program and never had *a positive test result. That is because he has never used a banned substance, but also because, in each and every case, the testing was done by competent and unbiased personnel under a credible program utilizing WADA accredited labs.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/9/16...-of-nick-diazs

Honestly, are you being serious here?
Could you imagine this was about Floyd? No wonder you keep on bringing up silly loop holes. You do not care for the truth. Just protecting your hero Floyd!

None of those point to the fact that the samples were just too dilute to turn up a positive result!!! Its NOT that he was clean with those 2 other samples. If you have checked it up, the NSAC brings this up.

[travestyny]

Honestly, are you being serious here?
Could you imagine this was about Floyd? No wonder you keep on bringing up silly loop holes. You do not care for the truth. Just protecting your hero Floyd!

None of those point to the fact that the samples were just too dilute to turn up a positive result!!! Its NOT that he was clean with those 2 other samples. If you have checked it up, the NSAC brings this up.

Wrong. I just showed you a specialist stated it is medically impossible for him to have diluted the sample in that period of time.

Go do some research and find out how many people railed NSAC over what happened, and their kangaroo court.

You will find that what happened was due to a woman named Pat Lundvall who was on Diaz' ass because of him bragging that he could cheat tests. She obviously wanted him bad which is why there were 3 tests, 2 different labs, and a desire for a lifetime ban. Sorry, you failed again to link any of your bs to Floyd. Keep trying.

[Shape up]

Shut up, bltch.

That's the kind of weak, uninformed answer I'd expect from you dickhead, you never provide any proof for the hard questions asked, when proof is provided to rebut your arguement you ignore it and try to press your own opinion, which by the way is worthless, if you can't take the heat,get out of the kitchen nobjockey

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The poor soul travestyny is keeping this thread on life support and it's truly a sad sight to behold. He can't seem to come to terms with the fact that IV infusions are banned by WADA and toradol is not.

[travestyny]

That's the kind of weak, uninformed answer I'd expect from you dickhead, you never provide any proof for the hard questions asked, when proof is provided to rebut your arguement you ignore it and try to press your own opinion, which by the way is worthless, if you can't take the heat,get out of the kitchen nobjockey

I answered your pathetic drivel about 15 times now. No need to keep wasting my time with you.

So again, shut up, bltch.