Nowadays it seems like everyone just wants to pick and choose their opponents, especially the higher up you move in rank. Do you guys feel like sometimes fighters can get overpaid to where they have all the say, and as a result us fans tend to lose out on a lot of the fights that we want to see? I remember Jordan once said about NBA players that they are all overpaid now, and as a result they tend not to care as much or work as hard, could the same thing be happening in boxing??
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Is the amount that boxers get ultimately hurting boxing??
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it isn't that comparable to the NBA- those guys have to play X amount of games per season for their money, or they'd be out and be nobody. pro boxers, if they earn enough, can quite happily sit out for 6 months. they can also very easily use this to avoid an opponent that they don't fancy facing, in fact it is HARD to make the fights coincide well enough to make the ones that they actually DO want.
after a gruelling battle, fair enough take as much time as you want out, it's good and it's necessary and nobody can really have a grip about it, but there's no way in a million years that i can accept that normally a fighter NEEDS 6 months out before stepping in the ring again, regardless of how intense a training camp is.
money however enables them to do this...
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IMO its a little of both back in the day fighters only got big money for true big fights. Like PBF and Manny can only make 50+mill by fighting each other. But in the mean time they can make 25+mill for fighting Cotto and Bradley. That right there is the problem. If they can make that kind of money fighting 2nd and 3rd tier fights why make the truly big fight? Getting overpaid for fights that are not really big fights is messing things up in boxing not the fact that they are getting paid.
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Boxing works on the same business model as any other business. For guys like Pac and Floyd the risk reward ratio is always HIGHLY in their favor.
Why risk something at 1-1 odds and make 60 mil, when you can be at 10-1 odds and make 40 mil? Realistically now almost no business person would take the 1-1 odds
Oh BTW, nobody is overpaid on PPV's, because they generate the money themselves.
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Originally posted by frosty-g View Postit isn't that comparable to the NBA- those guys have to play X amount of games per season for their money, or they'd be out and be nobody. pro boxers, if they earn enough, can quite happily sit out for 6 months. they can also very easily use this to avoid an opponent that they don't fancy facing, in fact it is HARD to make the fights coincide well enough to make the ones that they actually DO want.
after a gruelling battle, fair enough take as much time as you want out, it's good and it's necessary and nobody can really have a grip about it, but there's no way in a million years that i can accept that normally a fighter NEEDS 6 months out before stepping in the ring again, regardless of how intense a training camp is.
money however enables them to do this...
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Originally posted by Luilun View PostFrosty for your information a boxer payday isn't just one day, it's at least 90 days of trainning than he has to pay sparring partners,trainers,cutman, and now days condtioning coach, While an NBA players dosn't pay his coach or his tape man that's provided by the owner. So to answer your question only Mayweather and Pacquiao are over paid, not all boxers.
Explain to me how Pac and Floyd are overpaid
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the promoters are mainly whats hurting the sport...
promoters negotiate their fighters' paydays and thereby also keep in mind how to profit from these fights. bad blood between north american boxing's two major players: gbp and top rank is whats preventing the major fights because they sign the major fighters
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostIm not sure what that means. It is only for 1 day, well more like 36 mins if it goes the full 12 rounds.
Explain to me how Pac and Floyd are overpaid
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostBoxing works on the same business model as any other business. For guys like Pac and Floyd the risk reward ratio is always HIGHLY in their favor.
Why risk something at 1-1 odds and make 60 mil, when you can be at 10-1 odds and make 40 mil? Realistically now almost no business person would take the 1-1 odds
Oh BTW, nobody is overpaid on PPV's, because they generate the money themselves.
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I used to think that athletes made too much .. that is until you find out how much money the owners pocket.
Chew on this:
A man owns a plot of land, and he owns a tent, and he pays men who are extremely gifted and talented to perform in his tent, which is on his land.
After one night's performance, that man takes in $1000, which is unheard of across the land. He has 10 performers to pay. He pays them each $5. Most people at that time, in that place, make 5 cents a day.
Do any of you think that's fair because the talent makes more than just about anyone else in the land? Should they be "satisfied" because in comparison they make in a day what would take anyone else 3 months and 10 days to make?
Does what the talent makes in comparison to everyone else now make how much the owner pockets irrelevant?
You see, the rich have always preached the doctrine that one should be happy to have anything at all, and as such all should be happy with what they get as some have nothing at all.
That doctrine tied in with fine print, surcharges, fees & taxes is how the rich have had the poor & middle class' head down and asss up for centuries.
Some people know this but hate the fact that professional athletes make so much more money than them that they(the poor and middle class) perpetuate that ridiculous doctrine out of a sense of envy.
Don't hate the talent for wising up. Hate the game for being rigged for so long.
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