Originally posted by johnm is...
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Why are some boxers allowed to cheat and earn respect as being "crafty" "Skilled"
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Originally posted by Beercules View PostAnd he would suddenly stop clinching for no reason against Golovkin how? For what reason?
He would be DQ'd
Again, he hasn't clinched excessively since Kessler or Bika. It hasn't been much an issue for a while. His biggest wins besides Kessler don't have anything close to excessive clinching.
If Golovkin lost to Ward, I guarantee you it wouldn't be because he was cheated. It would be because he wasn't good enough.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostWhat do you mean suddenly? I just told you his clinching hasn't been an issue in like 5 years.
Again, he hasn't clinched excessively since Kessler or Bika. It hasn't been much an issue for a while. His biggest wins besides Kessler don't have anything close to excessive clinching.
If Golovkin lost to Ward, I guarantee you it wouldn't be because he was cheated. It would be because he wasn't good enough.
Why do you dislike Gennady?
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Originally posted by Beercules View PostOh no, Andre "Can't Leave Oakland" Ward would stink it up.
Why do you dislike Gennady?
Ward isn't nearly the clincher everyone says he is. Dude had one awful fight in that regard and everyone says he does it all the time. He didn't clinch much against Abraham, Froch, Dawson, or Rodriguez. People act like he's Wlad Klitschko when he's nothing close.
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Some fighters typically use cheating as their fight to fight gameplan.
I like Wlad because he is the best, will fight anyone, and usually gets the stoppage but the holding is too much apart of his plan. The same with Hopkins for years employing the threat of low shots and headbutts.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostAre you kidding? So if I don't hate unreasonably on Ward, I must hate Golovkin? My post history makes it very clear I don't ever hate on Golovkin and spent most my time discussing him defending him in arguments with morons.
Ward isn't nearly the clincher everyone says he is. Dude had one awful fight in that regard and everyone says he does it all the time. He didn't clinch much against Abraham, Froch, Dawson, or Rodriguez. People act like he's Wlad Klitschko when he's nothing close.
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Usually because it has gone overlooked to long and by the time people realize it is a part of their formula to win, it's too late. They have already become a dignified superstar with tons of power backing them. I don't know what the deal is with guys going into the ring and not making it a priority that the ref before hand knows of the others dirty tactics. I see Hopkins rush in with his head all the time, and his opponents just accept it. I think clearly the only way to call out boxers of superstar status in the ring for dirty tactics like using a forearms and such would be to complain to the ref constantly.
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Originally posted by Beercules View PostAbraham and Froch were sooo long ago, Dawson was weight drained, Rodriguez who? Who the **** is/was Rodriguez? I shut off that fight by the 4th round.
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