Why are people so quick to accuse fighters of ducking?

[leonthegee]

Floyd was never interested in the fight so he went the PEDs route excuse. He never did that with Oscar who was said to take PEDs.

Floyd said prior to negotiations #1 that he would NEVER accept a 50/50 deal ...NEVER ..... so once Manny accepted testing, Floyd went the "I WANT ALL PPV" excuse. Just like he said he would do months BEFORE, prior to the 2009 negotiations. Its all there on video. It just took more time because his PEDs excuse was working well for him.

But that is besides the point. The TS said, its all about business and if the fighter takes on another fighter instead due to making more money then you can't say its a duck. I gave a few examples where Floyd would get more money. Then I clarified that for you. Now you are changing the subject. No problem .... but Floyd took the lesser risks for even less money! FACT!!!

Finally, Floyd is his own boss, he says. Also, everyone wants to fight him. Why couldn't he fight all those fighters that he ducked? OK, if he didn't fight one opponent but he didn't fight Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Manny, Williams, Martinez .... not all are Arum fighters but even then, so what! Manny fought Oscar who is the man at GB. It can happen! Martinez fought Chavez Jr! It can happen!

You use the term money fights and then you say Margarito and Williams lol? Wheres the money in those fights? Cottos team wanted nothing to do with Floyd at 140 and Mosley and Floyd never campaigned at the same weight until late in their carreers. Mosley skipped 140 entirely and before Floyd retired Mosley was fighting at 154. His first fight back at WW was Cotto in 2008 when Floyd was retired. Once Floyd came back he fought Marquez than Mosley. Once Mosley moved up to fight Oscar that ruined any chance of a prime Floyd Mosley fight.

[Fighting_Pride]

in the sport of boxing, 50% is won by intimidation i.e talk trash. the other half is won in the ring

[Lords]

You use the term money fights and then you say Margarito and Williams lol? Wheres the money in those fights? Cottos team wanted nothing to do with Floyd at 140 and Mosley and Floyd never campaigned at the same weight until late in their carreers. Mosley skipped 140 entirely and before Floyd retired Mosley was fighting at 154. His first fight back at WW was Cotto in 2008 when Floyd was retired. Once Floyd came back he fought Marquez than Mosley. Once Mosley moved up to fight Oscar that ruined any chance of a prime Floyd Mosley fight.

Can you prove that Cotto himself wanted nothing to do with Floyd? To my knowledge Cotto ducked nobody ever, hell, he even fought margarita when nobody seemed to want any of him including Floyd during that time.

[Ray*]

Because most of these posters are morons, there are only a few times that I can actually say a fighter was ducked. Like Ricky Hatton making all stupid excuses to duck Junior Witter shamelessly/blatantly because he was scared to lose, Or like GBP/Top rank using their powers to avoid a fighter that they think can derail their fighters but the word gets thrown around too quickly these days.

[ADP02]

You use the term money fights and then you say Margarito and Williams lol? Wheres the money in those fights? Cottos team wanted nothing to do with Floyd at 140 and Mosley and Floyd never campaigned at the same weight until late in their carreers. Mosley skipped 140 entirely and before Floyd retired Mosley was fighting at 154. His first fight back at WW was Cotto in 2008 when Floyd was retired. Once Floyd came back he fought Marquez than Mosley. Once Mosley moved up to fight Oscar that ruined any chance of a prime Floyd Mosley fight.

You are wrong!

When Margarito asked Floyd for a fight, Floyd was going to make his biggest pay day.

My point was that there are names on the list that dispute the claim that Floyd takes the best pay day since its a business. I named a few examples in a previous thread.

Floyd likes to fight opponents when they are not ready for one reason or another:
- Cotto: Arum was interviewed and said that Cotto may be the man to beat Floyd BUT NOT NOW since he was a young guy that was still developing. Arum said probably in a year perhaps a year and a half. By then, Floyd had little interest in fighting the top 147lb and went on a long vacation.

- Mosley: There were several opportunities for that fight. When Floyd fought Baldomir, he had a chance to fight Margarito in November or Mosley in December/January/February timeframe. Floyd told Mosley NO!!! There is an interview on that.

Also, Mosley fought Cotto when Floyd decided to fight a career 140lb again but at 147 then decided to retire for some strange reason! Why take on a 140lb when there were so many legit 147lb fighters including Cotto, Mosley, Margarito,....?

- Marquez: Floyd this time fought a guy that had recently fought 130-135lb fights ..... fight was at 146lb. Again, why when there were so many legit WWs?

- Williams: Asked to take on Floyd. Floyd never ever tried to take him on.

- Martinez: Was going to come down in weight for Floyd. Floyd said, fight Ward at 168 .... lol!


Floyd fans say its about money but then when Floyd can make big money, its another excuse. The bottom line is that Floyd says he is his own boss, Everyone wants to fight him .... unfortunately, Floyd prefers to fight them when there still developing or when they are old and out of prime.


Funny thing is the next time there is a thread that discusses legacy, Floyd fans will change their tune! LOL!

[hugh grant]

Floyd obviously ducked Pacquiao, Margarito, Prime Cotto and Paul Williams.

Some fighters do ducks other fighter for whatever the reason. It doesn't always mean they're scared

But Floyd was scared though no exception. He dont fight often as he dont like fighting and is scared to fight, he sees it as an inconvinience that interrupts him living his life. Fighting often means you are more likely to lose statisticly as well even if you fight bums.
Choosing not to fight is essientially the same as ducking. And when you are not fighting and have a lot of time on your hands like Floyd you can scan the scene and cherry pick, which is what Floyd is all about. He liked that hatton had hard time at WW and nearly lost to Collazo.

[New England]

they're naive, and disappointed about fights they want to see not materializing.


looking through this thread, i'll also add that many of them are here to "hate" certain fighters, and suck the c#cks of the ones with whom the identify. they really don't care about the actual boxing, or the fighters. they're here for selfish purposes.