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  • #11
    Originally posted by -Lowkey- View Post
    No the heavyweight division is not very good in fact its shockingly terrible lets be honest.

    That made me laugh though your definition of the words "very good" must be very low indeed.
    The division is God awful at the moment because the top contenders will not fight one another and are content to take on unranked and/or washed up opposition. There is simply no depth because these pretenders refuse to take any chances that they may lose their ABC ranking or a payday. To put it simply, the heavyweight division has no balls.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      The division is God awful at the moment because the top contenders will not fight one another and are content to take on unranked and/or washed up opposition. There is simply no depth because these pretenders refuse to take any chances that they may lose their ABC ranking or a payday. To put it simply, the heavyweight division has no balls.
      What are you talking? The fight yesterday was just 2 contenders fighting each other.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
        What are you talking? The fight yesterday was just 2 contenders fighting each other.
        Huck was a heavyweight contender? Thank you for making my point. When a cruiserweight with no heavyweight fights is considered a top contender...the division sucks.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          No, that's not true.

          It shows how ridiculous the WBA is to make Rahman the mandatory, when he hasn't beaten a top 100 heavyweight contender.

          Rahman is BoxRec #62 heavyweight.

          The heavyweight division is very good, but the sanctioning organizations need to clean up their act.
          there have been some good fights the last 6 months. botha\grant was a great fight, povetkin\huck, chisora\helenius, minto\grano were all good fights. it doesn't matter who is fighting as long as we get good fights. chisora has lost 3 fights & is still in the mix because of the circus act he brings. i think the division is getting better but i think the veterans like rahman need to fight other instead of taking title shots from others.make an 8 man tournament with former contenders. rahman, tua, mccall, holyfield, toney, botha, grant, barrett in a tourney with the checks getting bigger the further you go. you could add briggs, meehan, harrison, boswell, mccline, golota, maskaev, tarver & make it a 16 man tourney, single elimination, 5 fights over 2 years.
          Last edited by joe strong; 02-26-2012, 01:27 PM.

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          • #15
            if rahman is in decent shape then povetkin better not get hit with the rights he was getting hit with last night. rahman has been paid twice to step aside & has been watching povetkin fight. povetkin has never faced a real puncher. rahman has one punch knock out power.he has a great jab & big right. this will be povetkin's toughest test. i think rahman has a real shot at winning this fight. rahman will hold him inside then jab him from outside. rahman will be in the 240-250 range & i don't think povetkin can knock rahman out. povetkin better be in better shape then he was vs huck.rahman is strong & you can bet he will lean on him...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
              Again: the heavyweight division is NOT weak. Some people say that because they are angry because the titleholders are of a nationality or complexion they don't like.

              Rahman is BoxRec #62 at heavyweight. There are many more deserving, more talented heavyweights right now, Rahman should NOT be the WBA mandatory.

              Please think. Rahman being mandatory doesn't say anything about the division, it DOES say something about the WBA and how stupid they are.
              The whole world knows the heavyweight division is pi.ss poor in fact its embarrassing.

              If the heavy weight division is "very good" as you described it (LOL) then what is the excuse for Vitali fighting a rookie who lost 2 of his last 3 fights and Wlad fighting Mormeck a 40 year old cruiser weight, again LOL.

              As for you giving me red K for stating something that everyone already knows it just highlights your childish persona.
              Last edited by -Lowkey-; 02-26-2012, 01:39 PM.

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              • #17
                Chisora did enough to win against Helenius easily but the fact of the matter is he is a rookie going into the Vitali fight with a record of 1-2 in his last 3 fights.

                Lets not beat around the bush here 99% of boxing fans are in agreement that the HW division is pi ss poor you are clearly in denial.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  I agree.

                  Instead of making Rahman the mandatory, they should have had an WBA eliminator. The HW division needs more eliminators. There hasn't been a WBO eliminator since 2009, hasn't been a WBA eliminator for a long time, and we are due for a WBC eliminator. The IBF just recycled two boxers who had already been KOed by Wlad and had them fight two journeyman (Harris and Rossy), they should have instead had some undefeated heavyweights fight.

                  As for Huck, the top boxers from smaller divisions have often moved up to new divisions and have been immediately considered to be contenders. It doesn't mean the HW division is no good.

                  For example, Cotto moved up to welterweight and fought fought for the WBA title in 2006, Pacquiao moved up to welterweight and fought for the WBO title in 2009. It didn't mean that the welterweight division was no good.



                  If you believe that Chisora lost his fight with Helenius, you're in disagreement with 99% of observers and you don't know much about boxing.

                  Wlad tried for many other opponents, but only Mormeck was willing. It has more to do with promoters OVER-PROTECTING their HWs than the quality of the boxers in the division.
                  no doubt in my mind now why atlas pulled povetkin from his fight with wlad. sauerland will play the valuev card & match povetkin up with favorable opponents. they won't push for the title shot at the real champ.they are going to milk that "interim" title as long as they can.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Freedom.

                    David Price
                    Denis Boytsov
                    Michael Perez
                    V. Glazkov
                    Seth Mitchell
                    Ondrej Pala
                    Dereck Chisora
                    Kubrat Pulev
                    Edmund Gerber
                    Robert Helenius
                    Michael Wallisch
                    Artur Szpilka
                    Magomed Abdusalamov
                    Deontay Wilder
                    Luis Ortiz
                    Andrzej Wawrzyk
                    Alexander Povetkin

                    and of course:

                    Wladimir Klitschko
                    Vitali Klitschko
                    LOL the very first guy you list is a man with only 12 pro fights and is yet to fight anyone above the level of a domestic journeyman thanks for proving my point.

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                    • #20
                      How the hell is Rahman mandatory for the WBA? Surely that'd make him mandatory for Wlad? Saying that, why the hell hasn't Povetkin been made a mandatory challenger for Wlad?

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