I'm worried about Bradley's health because they decided not to do RDT.

[BUNGALOWS]

I think Paulie is talking about earlier when there was trouble with what drug agency they was going to use..I've never seen where they said Pac was not wanting to do drug testing..Or it's like you said,hate for the HBO PPV..

I need a source before I speak any further.

[jas]

Source?..............

Will provide once I'm back from gym. On train ATM.

[wiz1030]

Pac Bradley 2 is using NSAC for testing. I think Paulie is just writing them off because the athletic commsion is doing it instead of an independent anti-doping agency, which is a fair criticism.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Pac Bradley 2 is using NSAC for testing. I think Paulie is just writing them off because the athletic commsion is doing it instead of an independent anti-doping agency, which is a fair criticism.

Why is that??They did a solid job with the Bradley Marquez fight..Not to mention I believe WADA still uses VADA agency's when doing test analysis..I believe..

[Rome-By-Ko]

| When eight-division former world champ Manny Pacquiao finally decided to enter the age of voluntary performance enhancing drug (PED) testing prior to last November's bout with Brandon Rios, it was a big deal.

And, although, to this writer's knowledge, there exists no video or still picture report of his testing, the agency entrusted with the task, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) ensures that he was, indeed, tested.

We do know, though, that Rios was tested. A couple of widely-circulated videos of the actual testing and a positive result for the banned stimulant dimenthylamylamine following the fight serve as proof that testing was definitely going on to some degree, at least.

Now, however, as Pacquiao gets ready to face Timothy Bradley in a rematch of their controversial 2012 bout, testing has very much been left in the shadows.

As of February 6, the media was reporting that testing was "still being negotiated" for the April 12 bout. Bradley, who beat Pacquiao via widely-discredited split decision the first time they met, even told Boxingscene that he believed VADA would be doing the testing, but wasn't 100% sure.

Now, though, the tune has changed somewhat and, per promoter Bob Arum, it looks as though the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) will be handling the testing. Arum insists that the NSAC will test for the same substances as VADA and intimates that a similar protocol will be used as well.

"Both are clean guys," Arum recently said." Any drug testing that's been suggested, they've exceeded. We are working with the athletic commission in Nevada and they say that VADA is not a state agency so they want us to run the testing through themselves but if they do that it will be the same tests as VADA."

The setup, if Arum's words are correct, would be similar to the testing done for last October's Bradley-Juan Manuel Marquez clash. In that bout, neither side was particularly happy about the testing and it created a major obstacle in finalizing the bout. In that particular instance, Bradley eased back on his demands for VADA testing and allowed for Arum's commission-run system to be implemented. This time, apparently, Bradley is more eager for the high profile bout than a coherent and professional testing plan and has made no complaints about the drug testing protocol.

PEDs testing has been a cause célèbre throughout the boxing world, but a universal, commission-implemented system capable of working through boxing's hopelessly awful regulatory system has yet to even be proposed. Up until now, random testing has been implemented on a voluntary basis at the discretion of the promoters and handled by third party agencies such as VADA or the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). True, year-round Olympic-style testing is not in play, nor has it ever been truly proposed by anyone with the power to make it happen.

Despite silly VADA vs. USADA debates in the media and a high degree of, some say intentional, misinformation out there, the issue at hand is not any closer to being solved.

Right now there is absolutely no guarantee that any fighter is really clean. This uncertainty leads to rumor, gossip, and most importantly, the feeling that a fighter must pursue his or her own chemical shortcut in order to compete.

Continued ambiguity in testing will keep the sport in the dark and its athletes perpetually in danger.

As for Pacquiao-Bradley II, a relatively vague statement about NSAC testing from Arum means nothing. Already, rumors are flying and fans are stirring up accusations aimed at both fighters. Even fellow fighters are getting into the act.

Former two-division world titlist Paulie Malignaggi added his own two cents when asked for a prediction on Pacquiao-Bradley. At the time he was under the impression that VADA would be doing the PEDs testing for the bout.

"Bradley all day," Malignaggi said during a brief video interview. "They're doing VADA testing, right? Tim Bradley all day."

What was Malignaggi implying by that comment? That's something better left for fan debate.

But not open for debate is the fact that Pacquiao-Bradley II gives neither fighter the assurance that the other is clean. Arum, by once again leaving PEDs testing in the hands of a commission that has previously voted down the idea of enhanced doping tests, has made a mockery of the entire idea of having an even playing field in this bout.

And what of Manny Pacquiao, who seemed to have finally seen the light in the area of testing reform? Well, it appears as though he just doesn't care all that much about it anymore.

Interesting read..I do believe they should have had VADA..Very strange that they did not want VADA involved..

[George Orwell]

Paulie already has a preconceived notion that Pacquiao is on PEDs, therefore why does it matter to him what the testing is?

For those with an open mind (non-biased) we dont discount the possibility either way but dont make value judgements that dont require empirical evidence.

[jas]

Source?..............

From 2hrs 55min 15seconds:

[HeroBando]

| When eight-division former world champ Manny Pacquiao finally decided to enter the age of voluntary performance enhancing drug (PED) testing prior to last November's bout with Brandon Rios, it was a big deal.

And, although, to this writer's knowledge, there exists no video or still picture report of his testing, the agency entrusted with the task, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) ensures that he was, indeed, tested.

We do know, though, that Rios was tested. A couple of widely-circulated videos of the actual testing and a positive result for the banned stimulant dimenthylamylamine following the fight serve as proof that testing was definitely going on to some degree, at least.

Now, however, as Pacquiao gets ready to face Timothy Bradley in a rematch of their controversial 2012 bout, testing has very much been left in the shadows.

As of February 6, the media was reporting that testing was "still being negotiated" for the April 12 bout. Bradley, who beat Pacquiao via widely-discredited split decision the first time they met, even told Boxingscene that he believed VADA would be doing the testing, but wasn't 100% sure.

Now, though, the tune has changed somewhat and, per promoter Bob Arum, it looks as though the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) will be handling the testing. Arum insists that the NSAC will test for the same substances as VADA and intimates that a similar protocol will be used as well.

"Both are clean guys," Arum recently said." Any drug testing that's been suggested, they've exceeded. We are working with the athletic commission in Nevada and they say that VADA is not a state agency so they want us to run the testing through themselves but if they do that it will be the same tests as VADA."

The setup, if Arum's words are correct, would be similar to the testing done for last October's Bradley-Juan Manuel Marquez clash. In that bout, neither side was particularly happy about the testing and it created a major obstacle in finalizing the bout. In that particular instance, Bradley eased back on his demands for VADA testing and allowed for Arum's commission-run system to be implemented. This time, apparently, Bradley is more eager for the high profile bout than a coherent and professional testing plan and has made no complaints about the drug testing protocol.

PEDs testing has been a cause célèbre throughout the boxing world, but a universal, commission-implemented system capable of working through boxing's hopelessly awful regulatory system has yet to even be proposed. Up until now, random testing has been implemented on a voluntary basis at the discretion of the promoters and handled by third party agencies such as VADA or the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). True, year-round Olympic-style testing is not in play, nor has it ever been truly proposed by anyone with the power to make it happen.

Despite silly VADA vs. USADA debates in the media and a high degree of, some say intentional, misinformation out there, the issue at hand is not any closer to being solved.

Right now there is absolutely no guarantee that any fighter is really clean. This uncertainty leads to rumor, gossip, and most importantly, the feeling that a fighter must pursue his or her own chemical shortcut in order to compete.

Continued ambiguity in testing will keep the sport in the dark and its athletes perpetually in danger.

As for Pacquiao-Bradley II, a relatively vague statement about NSAC testing from Arum means nothing. Already, rumors are flying and fans are stirring up accusations aimed at both fighters. Even fellow fighters are getting into the act.

Former two-division world titlist Paulie Malignaggi added his own two cents when asked for a prediction on Pacquiao-Bradley. At the time he was under the impression that VADA would be doing the PEDs testing for the bout.

"Bradley all day," Malignaggi said during a brief video interview. "They're doing VADA testing, right? Tim Bradley all day."

What was Malignaggi implying by that comment? That's something better left for fan debate.

But not open for debate is the fact that Pacquiao-Bradley II gives neither fighter the assurance that the other is clean. Arum, by once again leaving PEDs testing in the hands of a commission that has previously voted down the idea of enhanced doping tests, has made a mockery of the entire idea of having an even playing field in this bout.

And what of Manny Pacquiao, who seemed to have finally seen the light in the area of testing reform? Well, it appears as though he just doesn't care all that much about it anymore.

Interesting read..I do believe they should have had VADA..Very strange that they did not want VADA involved..

Arum has been pushing for Nsac testing forever, which is how it should be in principle. If you get nabbed by Usada/Vada, there's 2 possible outcomes, either they forward the findings to the commission or keep it on the down low. Instead the commission/supervisory body should run the testing like in every other sport

[Rome-By-Ko]

From 2hrs 55min 15seconds:

I'm sure Pac could have pushed to have Vada..I mean this fight should have had Vada ..Pac and Bradley both used them in their last fight..I think Bradley is still using VADA..Along with WADA..

[SplitSecond]

From 2hrs 55min 15seconds:

this is old news

and it's not roach it's arum, bradley also signed a year long contract with vada, if there is extra testing he will have to do that along of his testing with vada