Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao Has To Beat Marquez, Bradley First

[Reloaded]

Manny Pacquiao is not Victor Ortiz or Cotto.

He is WW hype job that refused to fight Cotto without a draining CW , dream on mate .

[tangalog2200]

Yup, sound just like Floyd. He gets so defensive when Manny is brought up. Other dudes Floyd just brushes off like nothing.

three things;

One - floyd speaks as a businessman - message - pac is presently not so marketable as before the jmm loss

Two - floyd speaks as a boxer who understands that pac's loss to jmm has nothing to do with nor is really a gauge of the outcome of a pbf vs pac fight...as one good punch could really end it all...

Three - floyd speaks true to form of his old scared self

[Frank Ducketts]

three things;

One - floyd speaks as a businessman - message - pac is presently not so marketable as before the jmm loss

Two - floyd speaks as a boxer who understands that pac's loss to jmm has nothing to do with nor is really a gauge of the outcome of a pbf vs pac fight...as one good punch could really end it all...

Three - floyd speaks true to form of his old scared self

Pacquiao is washed up, lmao! He's done, and I say that with no disrespect lol.

[straightleft]

Pacquiao is washed up, lmao! He's done, and I say that with no disrespect lol.

After Pac the ko loss guess what? Pac still greater than Floyd resume or accomplishments wise and leaving Floyd many miles begind on ATG ranking. This must be hurt.

[ADP02]

Just like his first fake retirement/vacation, Floyd was hoping that the WWs would eventually get into wars and beat themselves up then Floyd would just use as an excuse that they all have a "loss" now so there was no reason to have fought them anyways.

Floyd was waiting all this time for Manny to lose just so Floyd can pull a line like this. Floyd was hoping it would have happened sooner.

[The Big Dunn]

Just like his first fake retirement/vacation, Floyd was hoping that the WWs would eventually get into wars and beat themselves up then Floyd would just use as an excuse that they all have a "loss" now so there was no reason to have fought them anyways.

Floyd was waiting all this time for Manny to lose just so Floyd can pull a line like this. Floyd was hoping it would have happened sooner.

The prob lem with this theory is bradley and jmm are not welters. They are jww and a lw moving up. Its not like manny fought ortiz, berto, or any ranked ww's. Floyd fights the guys who win and somehow you try and spin it to oh well he didn't fight this guy or that guy. Niether did manny. Manny fought just the tr guys. I know you love manny to death but hold each accountable for their actions based on the same set of standards.

[ADP02]

The prob lem with this theory is bradley and jmm are not welters. They are jww and a lw moving up. Its not like manny fought ortiz, berto, or any ranked ww's. Floyd fights the guys who win and somehow you try and spin it to oh well he didn't fight this guy or that guy. Niether did manny. Manny fought just the tr guys. I know you love manny to death but hold each accountable for their actions based on the same set of standards.

Everyone including Floyd knows that Manny beat Bradley. So to include that is just ridiculous. If Manny at some point takes Bradley on, OK but to say "needs to beat Bradley before fighting me", is a joke. Furthermore, that PROVED that Floyd wasn't ready to fight Manny even if he had beat Marquez because in his mind he also had to beat Bradley again (lol!). So imagine, you Floyd fans would be saying again that Manny doesn't want to fight Floyd yet Floyd would have the Bradley excuse/roadblock waiting on deck. Again. its a joke!

Marquez vs Manny is a rivalry. No matter which weight they fight at, as long as both can handle the weight, the fight will be a tough one for BOTH.


I'm spinning it?

You guys are the ones that keep on saying .... but, but Marquez was #2 P4P when he fought Floyd. There is even a thread made the other day that you guys defended that said the Marquez who had just moved up from 130 to 135 and fought Floyd at 146lbs was a good win. So again, who is the one spinning things?

Manny fought guys that your hero Floyd didn't want to fight back then like Margarito, Cotto, .... who were ranked.

Berto: His resume was very suspect but still would have been a fun fight to see (offense vs offense). Still, a joke to bring up at this point in time unless he somehow is able to improve on his defense. Manny would have found those holes in his defense.

Ortiz and Guerrero: What did they really do at WW? All they did was beat Berto. Am I supposed to be impressed at Floyd's pick because they are ranked by beating the same guy? Most knowledgeable boxing fans know that they are still green as far as WW division is concerned and needed more time before facing Floyd.
Ortiz was being countered effectively by Peterson at 140. He was also knocked down twice against Berto. Berto's lack of defense was the difference. Furthermore, Ortiz has shown that he can be cracked mentally.

Guerrero looked very average against Aydin and again, beat Berto due to his lack of defense and because Berto started his fight doing a bad impression of Floyd (defensively). Again, Berto got Guerrero with many counters and near knock out punches in which fortunately Guerrero absorbed well and Berto was PEDs free!

Ortiz should have taught people that beating Berto should NOT lead to fighting Floyd .... but that's OK with Floyd fans because he is ranked once he beat Berto!

[tangalog2200]

Pacquiao is washed up, lmao! He's done, and I say that with no disrespect lol.

the words "he's done" used on a fighter were already proven to be wrong so many times...the history of boxing had already saw so many "done" fighters came back to the top....

[thuggery]

Like other posters have mentioned, in order to get a fight with Floyd-

Ortiz had to beat...... Berto the gatekeeper

Guerrero had to beat...... Berto the gatekeeper

But somehow Pacquiao, the already set in stone ATG/HOF, second biggest draw in boxing, has to avenge a loss to someone he already beat 10 rounds to 2 (Bradley), And ATG/HOF Marquez....to get a fight with Floyd?

How sissified do you have to be to even say or defend something like that? It's been known Floyd is scared of Pac for whatever reason, it's obvious in his tone when he's brought up. But this is a new level.

[The Big Dunn]

Like other posters have mentioned, in order to get a fight with Floyd-

Ortiz had to beat...... Berto the gatekeeper

Guerrero had to beat...... Berto the gatekeeper

But somehow Pacquiao, the already set in stone ATG/HOF, second biggest draw in boxing, has to avenge a loss to someone he already beat 10 rounds to 2 (Bradley), And ATG/HOF Marquez....to get a fight with Floyd?

How sissified do you have to be to even say or defend something like that? It's been known Floyd is scared of Pac for whatever reason, it's obvious in his tone when he's brought up. But this is a new level.

Manny just got KTFO and lost the decision to Bradley(even though I thought he won). Manny isn't the mandatory for the ww title or the JMW title. It makes perfect sense for manny to have to win before he gets a floyd fight at this stage. IMO he need only avange the KO to JMM since IMO he beat Bradley.