Originally posted by Zaroku
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this is not the way to judge a boxing match where you put the onus on one fighter to do something. a boxing match is judged equally and on clean punches and not what you think should have happened.
for example he didn't make floyd uncomfortable therefore floyd wins? do you realize that's not a way to judge a fight. first of all thats completely subjective whether floyd was uncomfortable or not but more importantly it has nothing to do with scoring a fight. you can be uncomfortable and still be landing the cleaner punches. you can be comfortable and still be taking the cleaner punches. imo floyd looked plenty uncomfortable holding and bending below the waist constantly in order to stop pac's momentum. yes he should have been penalized for doing that but he didn't win or lose the fight because of the way i perceived his comfort level.
or another example is you said pac was discouraged? you don't think floyd was discouraged that his punches weren't landing cleanly on manny and mannys were landing cleanly? floyd's dad certainly seemed discouraged when he told floyd he was losing. we don't judge a fight on the discouragement level of a fighter because its so subjective.
pac didn't throw 100 punches like he did against so and so. he doens't have to. all he has to do is be better than floyd in this fight. maybe you had high expectations based on pacs brilliant performances int he past but that should have no effect on judging this particular fight. just because floyd has low expectations and meets those low expectations doesn't mean he's the deserved winner.
somewhere along the way we have lost track of what boxing is all about. its about landing the cleaner punches. all this other stuff should be left on the wayside. the only thing subjective we should be arguing about is how clean the punches were, and i don't think you can honestly say floyd landed the cleaner punches. i know i can't because i've analyzed the fight in depth many times and it really wasn't close. flush punches against grazing punches was the story of the fight but the other stuff that you wrote about carried the day for whatever reason.
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