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  • #11
    Showtime said years ago they were willing to lose tons of money to pry boxing out of HBO's hands as a long-term investment... They should have kept an eye on their own people rather than worrying so much about HBO I guess. **** investment that turned out to be.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
      That's what happens when none of the stars are willing to fight each other. Shotime deals with Al Haymon, Al Haymon's fighters are not allowed to fight each other.
      Could've sworn Haymon's fighters fought each other on Sept. 13th.

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      • #13
        In the article that was posted here, Haymon is trying to bring boxing back to network television so I don't see why he would have any of his top fighters fight on SHO.

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        • #14
          Why would Haymon make his entire stable exclusive to NBC when he's the one paying them? and why would NBC even need those sort of guarantees when it's a time buy?

          Haymon needs that Showtime money.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
            Lol at this guy. Showtime will still have boxing and probably still haymon fighters. I think the nbc sports will be used to build guys up like showbox or fnf. The bigger fights will be saved for showtime and regular nbc
            exactly, one or two bigger fights on nbc/nbcsports, rest on showtime, probably even better for showtime since they don't have to show the tune up fights, win win for both of them.

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            • #16
              why would haymon walk away from money ppv offers. my guess NBC will be to build guys up. Is he only revenue for NBC fights advertising and the gate

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              • #17
                Originally posted by creekrat77 View Post
                why would haymon walk away from money ppv offers. my guess NBC will be to build guys up. Is he only revenue for NBC fights advertising and the gate
                Tv commercials are huge business, hell make more money this way even though he's coming out of pocket, the back end will be much more than what he's doing on cable.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                  Tv commercials are huge business, hell make more money this way even though he's coming out of pocket, the back end will be much more than what he's doing on cable.
                  Network TV commercials aren't the same as cable TV commercials.

                  Running ads on NBC Sports Network are a heck of a lot cheaper than running ones on NBC.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                    Tv commercials are huge business, hell make more money this way even though he's coming out of pocket, the back end will be much more than what he's doing on cable.
                    If that was the case why aren't more big names on ESPN? Commercials only bring in money when the show gets high ratings, when it doesn't commercials are actually pretty cheap. And boxing on NBC will have less views than ESPN FNF, no way Haymon is making money paying cards of 3 million and getting like $500k if that from NBC.

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                    • #20
                      Haymons guys will still fight on Showtime, why wouldn't they, he basically has complete control over there almost there entire boxing budget.

                      And now that he has 20 dates on NBC, he can force Showtime to pay more for the guys they want!

                      Espinoza should 100% be fired for basically losing complete leverage to Haymon, he is the definition of a puppet.

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