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There is no doubt imo he is the best fighter from 154-160 pounds at the moment.
At 36 it seems he is finally getting some respect and praise (so much for athletes dont become great ey floyd?)
But i cant help but think he is a bit over rated today. I feel he is benefiting from a very weak middleweight era.
His string of last few fights is certainly respectable.
Cintron - Who i feel he clearly beat. It went down as a draw though
Williams - FOTY for me. IMO williams did just about enough to nick the win. the SD loss was by no means a robbery it was a close fight either way
Pavlik - This win is a problem with me. its well documented Pavlik is having problems, plus he had already been schooled by Hopkins which no doubt took away a lot of his confidence going into this fight. A great win at the time but in hindsight maybe not as good as we first though?
Williams - KTFO out williams. caught him completely cold and took him OUT. Full credit
Dzinziruk - Respectable win but against a fairly limited opponent
He is a h2h nightmare right now and i feel a lot of guys are dodging him. Thats more due to his awkward style more than great boxing skill. He is a very awkward fighter.
I have a problem with his resume pre cintron.
Maybe its because people have always been ducking him i dont know. But looking at some of the names, from 2002-2007
Alvaro Moreno Gamboa 12-23-2
Tamaz Tskrialashvili 7-9-0
Presente Brito 11-14-3
Vasile Surcica 13-24-2
Oliver Tchinda 1-7-2
Pavel Florin Madalin 3-34-2
Russell Jordan 14-4-0
David Toribio 14-10-0
Archak TerMeliksetian 16-6-0
Thats pretty shocking opposition.
It really seems since Margarito schooled him back in 2000, Martinez has been in a slumber in terms of opposition. No doubt some good wins in there but a lot of shocking opposition.
His best win is arguably over Pavlik who had been exposed by Hopins and IMO always been over rated.
I dont think Martinez has done quite enough to be p4p in the top 3, which he seems to be in.
I really like martinez i find him very entertaining. But I dont think hes in the same bracket as floyd and manny, or even donaire or hopkins p4p wise.
A very good champion today. Clearly the best from 154-160. But i dont think hes done enough over his career to warrant such elevated p4p status
FOR THE RECORD::: I feel he deserves a shot at floyd or pac. but i cannot blame then in the least for turning that down. Its a dangerous fight against a MUCH MUCH bigger opponent. And its no slight on either fighter that they dont fancy it. i feel martinez is the hardest possible opponent for both pac and floyd
At 36 it seems he is finally getting some respect and praise (so much for athletes dont become great ey floyd?)
But i cant help but think he is a bit over rated today. I feel he is benefiting from a very weak middleweight era.
His string of last few fights is certainly respectable.
Cintron - Who i feel he clearly beat. It went down as a draw though
Williams - FOTY for me. IMO williams did just about enough to nick the win. the SD loss was by no means a robbery it was a close fight either way
Pavlik - This win is a problem with me. its well documented Pavlik is having problems, plus he had already been schooled by Hopkins which no doubt took away a lot of his confidence going into this fight. A great win at the time but in hindsight maybe not as good as we first though?
Williams - KTFO out williams. caught him completely cold and took him OUT. Full credit
Dzinziruk - Respectable win but against a fairly limited opponent
He is a h2h nightmare right now and i feel a lot of guys are dodging him. Thats more due to his awkward style more than great boxing skill. He is a very awkward fighter.
I have a problem with his resume pre cintron.
Maybe its because people have always been ducking him i dont know. But looking at some of the names, from 2002-2007
Alvaro Moreno Gamboa 12-23-2
Tamaz Tskrialashvili 7-9-0
Presente Brito 11-14-3
Vasile Surcica 13-24-2
Oliver Tchinda 1-7-2
Pavel Florin Madalin 3-34-2
Russell Jordan 14-4-0
David Toribio 14-10-0
Archak TerMeliksetian 16-6-0
Thats pretty shocking opposition.
It really seems since Margarito schooled him back in 2000, Martinez has been in a slumber in terms of opposition. No doubt some good wins in there but a lot of shocking opposition.
His best win is arguably over Pavlik who had been exposed by Hopins and IMO always been over rated.
I dont think Martinez has done quite enough to be p4p in the top 3, which he seems to be in.
I really like martinez i find him very entertaining. But I dont think hes in the same bracket as floyd and manny, or even donaire or hopkins p4p wise.
A very good champion today. Clearly the best from 154-160. But i dont think hes done enough over his career to warrant such elevated p4p status
FOR THE RECORD::: I feel he deserves a shot at floyd or pac. but i cannot blame then in the least for turning that down. Its a dangerous fight against a MUCH MUCH bigger opponent. And its no slight on either fighter that they dont fancy it. i feel martinez is the hardest possible opponent for both pac and floyd
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