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  • #31
    Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
    zab lost to floyd and baldomir and had a nc so if the zab fight means nothing neither should the castillo fight who had done absolutly nothing at 140 and before the fight with ricky it was a known fact the castillo was havin money problems could of possibly been fightin for a pay day
    if torres was to hit ricky with a flush shot they would have to carry ricky out the ring on a stretcher
    how do you know that the only reason miguel fought shane was because they thought he was shot? ricky probably only fought tszyu and castillo because he thought they were shot which they were
    1. did you see me mention castillo? it was a tuneup fight. it was to get ricky known to the american public.

    2. because EVERYONE thought shane was shot. cotto's handlers thought the same.

    3. kostya was not shot. past prime but not shot. that version of kostya probably could have given cotto all he could handle at 140.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Konstantin View Post
      Fighting lb4lb fighters is not a big deal, beating them is. And the one he did beat, with hindsight, shouldn't have been on the list.

      Everyone who Hatton beat Cotto would murder, including Hatton himself.
      Hatton wouldn't make it past Marg, Mosley, Clottey possibly Judah and Torres.
      it is a big deal if it's in a thread talking about competition. it shows how the opponents were rated by boxing people.

      hatton might not have beat floyd and pacquiao but he fought them. doesn't the thread ask who beat and who fought the better comp? not just who beat the better competition.

      cotto probably would beat hatton. i never said hatton was the better fighter.

      but facts are facts. the question isn't who is better. it's who beat and fought better opponents.

      hatton beating tszyu is better than anything cotto has ever done.

      cotto fought some tough opponents as well but so did ricky and better ones.

      cotto might have more good opponents on his resume but right now hatton has fought the better opponents.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Konstantin View Post
        Fighting lb4lb fighters is not a big deal, beating them is.
        doesn't matter. fact is hatton fought some... cotto none.

        And the one he did beat, with hindsight, shouldn't have been on the list.
        how so? tszyu left on top. he came back and beat his #1 contender in mitchell thus reclaiming his spot.

        Everyone who Hatton beat Cotto would murder,
        that don't mean cotto's resume ****s all over hatton's

        including Hatton himself.
        hatton/cotto at 140 lbs is a 50/50 fight.

        Hatton wouldn't make it past Marg, Mosley, Clottey
        obviously; they are too big.

        possibly Judah and Torres.
        hatton beats them both in a tough fight, same as cotto did.

        Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        zab lost to floyd and baldomir and had a nc so if the zab fight means nothing neither should the castillo fight who had done absolutly nothing at 140 and before the fight with ricky it was a known fact the castillo was havin money problems could of possibly been fightin for a pay day
        agreed. write off the judah and castillo wins

        if torres was to hit ricky with a flush shot they would have to carry ricky out the ring on a stretcher
        speculation

        how do you know that the only reason miguel fought shane was because they thought he was shot?
        mosley lost a few times and was coming down in weight. they thought they caught mosley at a good time.

        ricky probably only fought tszyu and castillo because he thought they were shot which they were
        castillo was shot. tszyu wasn't shot, but he was semi-retired.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by snootz86 View Post
          Floyd has called Cotto out before, Merchant has also asked Cotto about Floyd, Cotto : "my promoter sorts that". He knows full well Arum will not deal with Floyd disgraceful ducking by Cotto!
          When?

          It doesnt count as a call out if mayweather says "I'll fight cotto if he brings enough money."

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
            When?

            It doesnt count as a call out if mayweather says "I'll fight cotto if he brings enough money."
            Around the Gatti fight.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
              When?

              It doesnt count as a call out if mayweather says "I'll fight cotto if he brings enough money."
              floyd said he'd fight anyone after the brusselles fight. that fight was supposed to set up a fight with cotto. cotto ducked.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                doesn't matter. fact is hatton fought some... cotto none.


                how so? tszyu left on top. he came back and beat his #1 contender in mitchell thus reclaiming his spot.


                that don't mean cotto's resume ****s all over hatton's


                hatton/cotto at 140 lbs is a 50/50 fight.


                obviously; they are too big.


                hatton beats them both in a tough fight, same as cotto did.


                agreed. write off the judah and castillo wins


                speculation


                mosley lost a few times and was coming down in weight. they thought they caught mosley at a good time.


                castillo was shot. tszyu wasn't shot, but he was semi-retired.
                hahaha at hatton vs. cotto at 140 being 50/50.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  floyd said he'd fight anyone after the brusselles fight. that fight was supposed to set up a fight with cotto. cotto ducked.
                  Calling someone out means you have to actually call them out not say ill fight anyone.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
                    hahaha at hatton vs. cotto at 140 being 50/50.
                    Yep, Hatton>>>>>>>>Cotto @140

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                    • #40
                      let's make this simple.

                      marg , clottey , mosley and quintana against pacquiao , mayweather , kostya.

                      which group had the greater fighters?

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