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Measuring Manny Pt1: Has Pacquiao Skill, Opponent Selection Improved since Marquez?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by ALG United View Post
    This Black dude is a FRAUD, he's so into Marquez that he totally ignored Manny's skill improvements, for one Manny doesn't have a right hand in that Marquez fight and he do his combinations with straight lefts and rights, just like Leonard doing his own combinations with lightning left and right HOOKS, but Manny's combinations now are totally different, often doing it in mixed punches. And Manny rarely do LUNGES now coz he learned how to lead punch with either hands sidestep then do his combinations. Yes Marquez had some success in fighting Manny, but not just because of Marquez's superb skills as a counter-puncher, but because Marquez had the balls to trade punches in some instances, it is not enough to back pedal and pot shot Manny, coz even if you get him with one good punch you cannot stop him to come in and barrage you with punches...
    That whole sentence was bull****. Manny rarely lunges? Manny is just fighting opponents that cannot counter his bad balance and technique. To me, Manny's main flaw besides his defense is starting his attack from to far away. Which causes him to lunge. He uses his jab just to setup a rhythm to throw the left and right hook after. His favorite combination. In the video, Marquez counters it. In the Cotto fight, that combination is what causes the first knockdown. In both sequences, Manny is lunging and off balance after the straight left is thrown. Cotto just did not have the ability to make him pay for it. Is that dogging Manny or telling the truth?

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    • #32
      Berto have special hellacious Haitian uppercut for Bailey.

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      • #33
        Good video. Felt like I was watching game tape.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop View Post
          That whole sentence was bull****. Manny rarely lunges? Manny is just fighting opponents that cannot counter his bad balance and technique. To me, Manny's main flaw besides his defense is starting his attack from to far away. Which causes him to lunge. He uses his jab just to setup a rhythm to throw the left and right hook after. His favorite combination. In the video, Marquez counters it. In the Cotto fight, that combination is what causes the first knockdown. In both sequences, Manny is lunging and off balance after the straight left is thrown. Cotto just did not have the ability to make him pay for it. Is that dogging Manny or telling the truth?
          Manny was backing out when he first KD'd Cotto with a right hook, so what are you saying now.. Manny used to lunge alot early in his career, he does this by over reaching and trying too hard to land a punch, but Manny is more patient now, if ever he lunge it's just because he is shorter than his opponent and he uses his legs to bounce forward with his punch...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop View Post
            That whole sentence was bull****. Manny rarely lunges? Manny is just fighting opponents that cannot counter his bad balance and technique. To me, Manny's main flaw besides his defense is starting his attack from to far away. Which causes him to lunge. He uses his jab just to setup a rhythm to throw the left and right hook after. His favorite combination. In the video, Marquez counters it. In the Cotto fight, that combination is what causes the first knockdown. In both sequences, Manny is lunging and off balance after the straight left is thrown. Cotto just did not have the ability to make him pay for it. Is that dogging Manny or telling the truth?
            This is why he is fighting in these handicap matches..

            The video is a gave a great visual too Manny Continues flaw.

            As they say in football, "THE TAPE DONT LIE,"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Horus View Post
              This is why he is fighting in these handicap matches..

              The video is a gave a great visual too Manny Continues flaw.

              As they say in football, "THE TAPE DONT LIE,"
              Since the Marquez fights, which fights would you call "handicap" in the case of who Pacquiao's fought since?

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              • #37
                dunno why u mofos still talking about this vid. the vid was posted a long time ago.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brutal Honesty View Post
                  you people cant have it both ways. you say pacquiao is overrated, his opponents are crap, yet he's accused of using steroids because they cant believe that he's beating these guys.
                  It's pretty desperate.. Team Pac Haters needs to get a singular focused msg. Can't have dueling BS campaigns. Either he's on steroids or these wins aren't impressive.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
                    Since the Marquez fights, which fights would you call "handicap" in the case of who Pacquiao's fought since?
                    Why ask questions you know the answer too?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Horus View Post
                      Good video. Felt like I was watching game tape.

                      That wasn't just a feeling.. You were in fact watching video of fights.

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