London riots: Looting and violence continues

[Xercen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

another case of think b4 you type for the guy saying a riot would be shutdown in 1 hour if it were in the us.

riots are very hard to shut down because when they kick off the police usually don't have enough manpower available, and calming a huge mob hundreds of people strong where emotions are running high is nigh on impossible until you get water cannons/plastic bullets out there.

it will take more than 1 hour just to summon extra manpower let alone shut a mob down lol

[Clegg]

Some photos of my area after last night:



You have to be a real **** to smash up an Oxfam shop.

[Money_May]

Always outnumbered, never outgunned.

Get the water cannon and plastic bullets out ffs.

Can you believe this country has no water cannon! we gotta borrow it from nothern ireland! and to use water cannons that tory pr!ck has to declare a state of emergency which he does not want to do as it would reflect really badly on him.

[SirTomJones]

Riots when the Tories are in charge again.

Not shocked.

[street bully]

Anyone know a london connect who has ipads?

[Clegg]

Im no trouble causer or anything but i admit that i was out and about in the trouble in Leeds. Why?

For me, it were a laugh.

I was there to grab something, not to hurt people. One thing i noticed though...the youths, my own age and younger...totally fearless of the muskers (police).

Yeah but you're from Leeds, so unlike the other rioters you have something to get angry and violent about, what with being an inbred webbed feet bed-wetting ****** with more thumbs than brain cells and all that.

[Gojira]

Police are afraid to hurt anyone, and worry more about the consequences if they do. It's a sad state of affairs. The people know the police are limited in terms of using full-force and have to be careful.

Britain are lightweights, Period. They do what they want, when they want, with minor slap on the backsides. As said before, Britain is almost 'lawless'. The stuff you can get away with today is quite shocking..

really? up my end, the coppers take no prisoners. During the EDL march in the town center, every **** was getting smashed up.

[-Lowkey-]

Very interesting article written by Tariq Ali no doubt offering a different perspective to the one you currently have.

Why here? why now.


Why is it that the same areas always erupt first, whatever the cause? Pure accident? Might it have something to do with race and class and institutionalised poverty and the sheer grimness of everyday life? The coalition politicians (including new New Labour, who might well sign up to a national government if the recession continues apace) with their petrified ideologies can’t say that because all three parties are equally responsible for the crisis. They made the mess.
They privilege the wealthy. They let it be known that judges and magistrates should set an example by giving punitive sentences to protesters found with peashooters. They never seriously question why no policeman is ever prosecuted for the 1000-plus deaths in custody since 1990. Whatever the party, whatever the skin colour of the MP, they spout the same clichés. Yes, we know violence on the streets in London is bad. Yes, we know that looting shops is wrong. But why is it happening now? Why didn’t it happen last year? Because grievances build up over time, because when the system wills the death of a young black citizen from a deprived community, it simultaneously, if subconsciously, wills the response.
And it might get worse if the politicians and the business elite, with the support of the tame state television and Murdoch networks, fail to deal with the economy, and punish the poor and the less well-off for government policies they have been promoting for more than three decades. Dehumanising the ‘enemy’, at home or abroad, creating fear and imprisonment without trial cannot work for ever.

Were there a serious political opposition party in this country it would be arguing for dismantling the shaky scaffolding of the neo-liberal system before it crumbles and hurts even more people. Throughout Europe, the distinguishing features that once separated centre-left from centre-right, conservatives from social democrats, have disappeared. The sameness of official politics dispossesses the less privileged segments of the electorate, the majority.

The young unemployed or semi-employed blacks in Tottenham and Hackney, Enfield and Brixton know full well that the system is stacked against them. The politicians’ braying has no real impact on most people, let alone those lighting the fires in the streets. The fires will be put out. There will be some pathetic inquiry or other to ascertain why Mark Duggan was shot dead, regrets will be expressed, there will be flowers from the police at the funeral. The arrested protesters will be punished and everyone will heave a sigh of relief and move on till it happens again.

[Clegg]

Riots when the Tories are in charge again.

Not shocked.

It's not a political thing. There were riots during the last government anyway, I remember Birmingham having a particularly bad few days where a couple of people got killed and gravestones were smashed up.

[Uturn]

Some Pictures Of Looters:

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