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Originally posted by Fantastic One View PostVargas was at least over 85% of what he used to be when he got to Oscar. Being on roids should raise it more. The one that got the shell was Mosley and Vargas was still good enough to beat someone like Castillejo.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post85% based on what? Nearly getting KO'ed by a washed-up Wilfredo Rivera? Getting tagged and hurt by a complete no-name? Vargas was done as an elite fighter after the Tito fight.
Vargas was rarely hurt before that fight and after it seems he could barely take a punch.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostPeople like to rip oscar alot but the guy delivered great fights and matchups his entire career,,,
pernell
ike
tito
vargas
mosely twice
hopkins
floyd
manny
all pretty much at their peaks,,,,,
people can say he should have lost to pernell and sturm, but if you want to take those wins away, then add on the tito win and the mosely rematch win.....
All in all, oscar fought a helluva schedule, and i havent even mentioned, ruales, gatti, mayorga, genero, chavez twice, leija, molina, paez,
The ike-oscar fight was super close as oscar faded from rounds 6-11 but pulled out a huge 12th round,,,,,
Whether people like it or not,, oscar fought everyone, never dodged big event type fights, and always took the big challenges,,
floyd wont even think about going to 160 for serg or ggg,,, let alone ****ing hopkins
oscar fought 3 legit p4p #1 guys in manny, floyd, hopkins,, plus tito, pernell and shane were all p4p fighters when he fought them
I wish all fighters had the balls of oscar,,, win or lose he took the big fights
And when he fought Hopkins and Floyd they were win-win situations.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostThe Tito-Vargas fight is a prime example of a KO damaging a fighter badly.
Vargas was rarely hurt before that fight and after it seems he could barely take a punch.
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostThose names look great on paper but quite a few of those were cherrypicked fights.
And when he fought Hopkins and Floyd they were win-win situations.
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