Shocking PED revelations by T. Hauser. GBP, Mayweather, Quillin, Morales.

[josenoway]

No, Hauser discusses Chavez's positive test for Furosemide as well.

No mention of TR or Arum.

Chavez was mentioned, it's just that he was only found to have traces of marijuana in his system, it is an illegal substance but marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug... GBP were mentioned because they are actually involve in trying to conceal the early Morales positive results, and it just so happened that Peterson, Berto and Morales are all GBP fighters...

[Dr Rumack]

Because USADA wasn't treating the Morales case as an open-and-shut case. They were looking for a stronger story from the B samples before rendering judgement. And what they got was conflicting results from the second test, and negative results from the third test. They WERE NOT rendering judgement strictly from one B sample because precedence had been set by WADA earlier in 2011. USADA was NOT ready to label Morales a positive and that's how they treated the discourse with NYSAC. If you want to have a tantrum about the whole thing, cry to NYSAC. If NYSAC at any point felt it was appropriate to remove sanctioning, they could have. Ultimately, they waited for a FINAL judgement from USADA. How do you continue to be confused by this? USADA was NOT ready to label Morales as a true positive from one B sample because of the 2011 incident. And NYSAC wasn't ready to remove sanctioning without a final judgement from USADA. Which USADA did not render until they got results from further testing - they were NOT using just one B sample to reach a conclusion. Read that over and over again until you get it.

They had two positive 'B' samples.

And the key point Hauser makes is that this information was transmitted to Golden Boy but not the NYSAC.

[josenoway]

According to Hauser and Gabe. When pressed for sources, they don't produce. Is that true?

The rumors about Floyd's failed tests are not coming from Hauser, they're coming from the doping community. Is that true?

[HeroBando]

Because USADA wasn't treating the Morales case as an open-and-shut case. They were looking for a stronger story from the B samples before rendering judgement. And what they got was conflicting results from the second test, and negative results from the third test. They WERE NOT rendering judgement strictly from one B sample because precedence had been set by WADA earlier in 2011. USADA was NOT ready to label Morales a positive and that's how they treated the discourse with NYSAC. If you want to have a tantrum about the whole thing, cry to NYSAC. If NYSAC at any point felt it was appropriate to remove sanctioning, they could have. Ultimately, they waited for a FINAL judgement from USADA. How do you continue to be confused by this? USADA was NOT ready to label Morales as a true positive from one B sample because of the 2011 incident. And NYSAC wasn't ready to remove sanctioning without a final judgement from USADA. Which USADA did not render until they got results from further testing - they were NOT using just one B sample to reach a conclusion. Read that over and over again until you get it.

The commission didn't need a judgement from the USADA, they needed the B sample results. They were told these wouldn't be available until after the fight. According to Hauser, they were available and dirty, just not disclosed. You're trying too hard to muddy the waters.

[Dr Rumack]

It's sad to see these guys so caught up in their adoration for Floyd Mayweather that they can't see the implications for the sport in what happened in the Morales case.

[Dr Rumack]

The commission didn't need a judgement from the USADA, they needed the B sample results. They were told these wouldn't be available until after the fight. According to Hauser, they were available and dirty, just not disclosed. You're trying too hard to muddy the waters.

It's not hard to see the difference between the posters who are actually trying to get to the root of the issue, and the posters who are hysterical with rage over the references to Floyd Mayweather.

[josenoway]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...t-erik-morales

The tests that came back dirty -- the "A" samples and "B" samples -- were conducted at Morales' training camp in Mexico, one on Oct. 4 and one on Oct. 10, according to a source with knowledge of the testing schedule. Morales told people at Golden Boy, his promoter, that the reason for the positive test was because he ate tainted meat, a Golden Boy staffer told ESPN.com. There was a high-profile case recently where many members of the Mexican national soccer team tested positive for clenbuterol after eating tainted meat.

A third test conducted on Morales on Wednesday in New York came back negative, the Golden Boy source told ESPN.com

How is this still hard for anyone to understand? His samples from training camp in Mexico came back positive but his final test while in the US came back clean. Ultimately, in light of the 2011 incident, USADA made the final call to not flag him as positive. NYSAC sanctioned the fight, and it went on. You keep flapping about the B sample and I keep telling you USADA wasn't ready to flag him as positive from those tests because of the issue concerning tainted Mexican meat.

They had two positive 'B' samples.

And the key point Hauser makes is that this information was transmitted to Golden Boy but not the NYSAC.

[radioraheem]

It's sad to see these guys so caught up in their adoration for Floyd Mayweather that they can't see the implications for the sport in what happened in the Morales case.

And what about the Peterson case? Where Peterson was the only one that knew he tested positive for practically an entire month? What are the implications of that? Why was there no moaning then?

[josenoway]

Because USADA wasn't convinced the B samples told the whole story. Again, the discourse with NYSAC alerted them to the fact that Morales tested positive but USADA was not ready at that point to label him a positive because of the 2011 incident. The commission raised no objections to USADA's stance on the testing, just you.

The commission didn't need a judgement from the USADA, they needed the B sample results. They were told these wouldn't be available until after the fight. According to Hauser, they were available and dirty, just not disclosed. You're trying too hard to muddy the waters.

[FloydTBE]

too much corruption