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    So here is an article that chavez jr retweet, it shows how he sees himself, and makes some good points about him being unfairly criticized, i dont agree on all of them, but is a decent read. Tell us what do you think about it?
    http://www.deporsona.com/portada/la-...-de-chavez-jr/
    La injusta batalla de Chávez Jr.
    julio 19, 2015 Por: Héctor Luna Twitter: @_hectorluna Deporsona.com


    Por Héctor Luna (@_hectorluna)

    Cuando una persona es débil visualmente y se pone los anteojos del papá, nadie espera que mire igual que el papá. Puede ser que vea con menor o mayor enfoque, pero al final de cuentas, es su propia vista.

    No hay una ley que diga que la sangre tiene el mismo efecto en las demás personas, así sea de padre a hijo. Ni siquiera Gokú le transmitió a Gohan sus cualidades (Y Gokú ni esperaba que las tuviera), aunque no por eso significa que el aprendiz de Piccolo no haya ayudado a la humanidad a salvarla de algunas desgracias.

    Se comprende que cuando el aficionado al boxeo mira a Julio César Chávez Jr arriba del ring espera que sea un tipo demoledor, sangriento, violento.

    Porque el Junior tiene todas las condicionantes físicas perfectas. Es alto, tiene brazos largos, una complexión física excepcional, resiste golpes y al parecer cuando impacta hace daño. Todo esto daría para ser uno de los más grandes boxeadores de estos tiempos.

    Pero incluso, mucha gente no mira eso, simplemente se dejan llevar por el nombre que tiene y que parece ser que por obligación, tiene que emular al padre. Es decir, no critican a Julio por lo que deja de hacer, sino porque no es como su papá.

    Repito, se comprende de los aficionados, ellos están a la espera de que salga otro ídolo nacional, pero no entienden que el boxeo es distinto, y aunque se llamen casi iguales, son boxeadores totalmente diferentes.

    Ya no hay un Meldrick Taylor, un José Luis Ramírez o Pernell Whitaker. Ya no hay la oportunidad de hacer 50 peleas para luego disputar un campeonato mundial. Cambios traen cambios.

    Julio César Chávez Jr ha tenido una carrera que tiene dos caras: el nombre le ha servido para que se le ponga atención, pero también ese nombre le ha condenado su actuar.

    Y ni el papá ni el hijo tienen la culpa. La culpabilidad recae en los medios de comunicación.

    Los medios se han dedicado a crear en el Junior una especie de boxeador mejorado de lo que fue el padre. Desde sus inicios le pusieron un peso extra a los guantes de los que debían tener.

    Si ganaba no lo hacía convincentemente porque no noqueó, si noqueaba era porque el oponente era un bulto; si seguía peleando y no disputaba el título era porque lo cuidaban, cuando lo disputó aún no lo merecía; cuando se coronó como el primer campeón mundial en peso medio para México fue sin estar listo, cuando lo perdió con “Maravilla” Martínez, ¿no que muy chingón?.

    Palabras más, palabras menos. Columnistas, periodistas, analistas, reporteros, hasta seres intrascendentes con páginas de Internet que por mirar una pelea que no es comercial (digamos una que no pasen en Televisa o Tv Azteca) ya se creen expertos de boxeo.

    Todos, todos podemos criticar a Julio César Chávez Jr.

    No dio el peso y tuvo que pagar por ello. ¡A la horca!

    Salió positivo en marihuana. ¡retírenlo!

    Ha peleado por campeonato mundial sin merecerlo. ¡Es un inflado!

    Pero Edwin Valero mató a su esposa, Floyd Mayweather Jr nunca da el peso y al contrario, inventa sus propias divisiones, Julio César Chávez González estuvo internado por adicciones. No importa, ellos si tenían, o tienen, talento, se les perdona. Y sobre pugilistas que pelean por campeonatos mundiales sin merecerlo está lleno este universo…

    Se ha vuelto un mundo injusto contra Chávez Jr, sobre todo porque él no forma parte de la élite del boxeo mundial. Julio se encuentra en una medianía de boxeadores que buscan un lugar en la élite, con 29 de años de edad quiere entrar a ese mundo que es exclusivo para los grandes.

    En el boxeo los boxeadores son así; malos, regulares y buenos. Chávez Jr ni es malo, ni es bueno. Simplemente es un boxeador con grandes cualidades que no ha sabido explotar y que le alcanza para estar al nivel de buenas peleas. Que le permite ganarle a los malos y regulares pero caer contra los buenos.

    Aún está en ese camino, pero la gente no lo entiende (y con justa razón), los periodistas no lo entienden y son los principales culpables de confundir a la afición.

    Los medios de comunicación decidieron qué éxito le tocaba alcanzar a Chávez Jr. Las comparaciones sangrientas de lo que tenía que hacer, de cómo tenía que boxear, de cuántos nocauts tiene que propinar.

    Los expertos están tan cegados que quieren ver a Chávez Jr igual que al padre, aún y cuando ni siquiera son de la misma división. Pero parece que no lo entienden, ni cuando el propio Chávez González se los dice.

    Al Junior le tocó la batalla más difícil de todas; la de vencer a su papá
    http://www.deporsona.com/portada/la-...-de-chavez-jr/

    Translation:
    The unfair battle of Chavez Jr.

    When a person is visually weak, and he puts on dads glasses, no one expects that him, see like his dad. He might see with greater or lesser approach, but in the end, it's his own view.

    There is no law that says that blood has the same effect on other people, whether from father to son. Not even Goku conveyed his qualities to Gohan ( nor Goku expected him to have them), but by no means that means the apprentice of Piccolo, has not helped mankind to save some misfortunes.
    It is understood that when the boxing fan looks at Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in the ring expected him to be a devastating type, bloody, violent .

    Because Junior has all the perfect physical conditions. He is tall, has long arms, exceptional physique, good chin, and apparently his punches hurt on impact. All this would make him to be one of the greatest boxers of our time.
    But many people do not look at that, just get carried away by the name he has, and it seems that by obligation, he have to emulate his father. That is, they do not criticize Julio for what he stop doing in the ring, but because he is not like his dad.
    I repeat, is understood from the fans, they are waiting for another national idol to come out, but they do not understand that boxing is different, and although they named almost equal, they are totally different fighters.
    There is no longer a Meldrick Taylor, a Jose Luis Ramirez or Pernell Whitaker. There is no chance to make 50 fights and then fight for a world championship. Changes bring changes.
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr has had a career that has two faces: the name has served to pay attention to it, but that name also has condemned his actions.
    And neither the father nor son is to blame. The guilt lies with the media.
    The media have devoted to create on Junior a improved kind of boxer that his father was . From the beginning they put an extra weight on the gloves from what he should have had.
    If he won, he did not won convincingly because he did not get the KO, if he knocks them out it was because the opponent was a bum; if he kept fighting and did not dispute the title was because he was protected, when he fought for it he did not deserve the fight; when he was crowned the first world champion in middleweight for Mexico he was not ready, when he lost to "Maravilla" Martinez, ¿no que muy chingon?( This means, he supposed to be good so why did he lose the fight?)


    Few more or less words was said by Columnists, journalists , analysts, reporters , even insignificant beings with in websites that watch a fight that is not commercial (say one, that is not transmitted on Televisa or TV Azteca ) and boxing experts believe they are.

    All of us can criticize Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
    He did not make weight and had to pay for it. To the gallows!
    He tested positive for marijuana. He should retire!
    He has fought for world championship without deserving. He is all hype!
    But Edwin Valero killed his wife, Floyd Mayweather Jr never makes weight and invents his own divisions, Julio Cesar Chavez Gonzalez was hospitalized for addiction. No matter, if they had or have talent, they are forgiven. And about boxers fighting for world championships undeservedly this universe is full of them...
    It has become an unfair world against Chavez Jr , especially since he is not part of the elite of world boxing. Julio is located in a mediocrity of boxers seeking a place in the elite, with 29 years of age he wants to enter that world that is exclusive to the greats.
    In boxing boxers are divide like this; good, regular and bad. Chavez Jr is not bad, nor good. It's just a boxer with great qualities who has failed to explode them, and that is enough to keep up with good fighters. Allows him to beat the bad ones and regular ones, but he fails to defeat the good.
    He's still on that road, but people do not understand (and rightly so), journalists do not understand and are the main responsible to confuse the fans.
    The media decided what kind of success Chavez Jr. should achieve. The bloody comparisons of what he had to do, how he had to box, how many knockouts he must have.
    Experts are so blinded they want to see Chavez Jr. as his father, even when they are not even in the same division. But it seems they do not understand, even when Julio Cesar Chavez Gonzalez says so.
    Junior has the hardest battle of all; beating his father.

  • #2
    I generally like Chavez but the one thing I can't abide about him is the whinging to the referee, he basically pressures him into working for him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
      I generally like Chavez but the one thing I can't abide about him is the whinging to the referee, he basically pressures him into working for him.
      I agree thats one of the things he has to change to appeal more to the fans

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      • #4
        Chavez had real potential at middleweight, but his bully style with size advantage doesn't hold up well at the higher weights.. Kinda like margarito being a monster at 147 but had no success higher up.

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        • #5
          I don't think anyone even critizes Chavez for not being like his father and for not fighting like him either.

          He is critized for his own choices and his own conduct.
          This is a guy who literally has an excuse for every single thing and every single **** up. Even him retweeting this article is an example of him not accepting his responsibilities.

          When his professional career started and his fights where televised even though they where 4 rounders and/or undesservig of television time, the people had a tolerance to it because they understood that the kid was growing up and possibly had potential to make a decent or better run out of his pro career and since he is Julio's son people didn't mind watching him develop on TV throughout the years.

          Only that after so many years and so many fights the kid grew up physically but not mentally. He is still being televised on mismatches and being put in fights with great advantages. It is extensively documented and proven that he doesn't work hard. He's been busted for drugs. He's been busted for PED's, and he still doesn't take a single ounce of responsibility for anything.

          So how can people continue to support someone like that and forget that he's basically just a piece of **** with the same name as someone who was once a great fighter.

          Also nobody gives a pass to Valero, or Mayweather for what they did. I don't know of anyone that has ever said they remember Valero as a great person or the same for Mayweather.

          These are further excuses that Chavez Jr uses and things he says to satisfy himself and his ego.

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          • #6
            Nah..... **** him!! He's a Cruiserweight who is too scared to fight at Light Heavyweight so he brings up Middleweights to fight at catch weights he can't even make!! If it wasn't for his father, this guy would be a nobody!! He reminds me of this Italian kid I use to work construction with. His father was our super visor and that dude was the worst. Always high, never on time and lazy as ****. He had everything handed to him and still couldn't get nothing done. None of us respected him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              Chavez had real potential at middleweight, but his bully style with size advantage doesn't hold up well at the higher weights.. Kinda like margarito being a monster at 147 but had no success higher up.
              I think if he can get in shape, and with the help of robert garcia, he probably could have some good fights on 168 maybe even get a title, andre ward seems to be going to 175 and froch is retired, there a some good british there but they are still young and i dont think they get all of the titles inmediatly

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
                I don't think anyone even critizes Chavez for not being like his father and for not fighting like him either.

                He is critized for his own choices and his own conduct.
                This is a guy who literally has an excuse for every single thing and every single **** up. Even him retweeting this article is an example of him not accepting his responsibilities.

                When his professional career started and his fights where televised even though they where 4 rounders and/or undesservig of television time, the people had a tolerance to it because they understood that the kid was growing up and possibly had potential to make a decent or better run out of his pro career and since he is Julio's son people didn't mind watching him develop on TV throughout the years.

                Only that after so many years and so many fights the kid grew up physically but not mentally. He is still being televised on mismatches and being put in fights with great advantages. It is extensively documented and proven that he doesn't work hard. He's been busted for drugs. He's been busted for PED's, and he still doesn't take a single ounce of responsibility for anything.

                So how can people continue to support someone like that and forget that he's basically just a piece of **** with the same name as someone who was once a great fighter.

                Also nobody gives a pass to Valero, or Mayweather for what they did. I don't know of anyone that has ever said they remember Valero as a great person or the same for Mayweather.

                These are further excuses that Chavez Jr uses and things he says to satisfy himself and his ego.
                Originally posted by Bigg Rigg View Post
                Nah..... **** him!! He's a Cruiserweight who is too scared to fight at Light Heavyweight so he brings up Middleweights to fight at catch weights he can't even make!! If it wasn't for his father, this guy would be a nobody!! He reminds me of this Italian kid I use to work construction with. His father was our super visor and that dude was the worst. Always high, never on time and lazy as ****. He had everything handed to him and still couldn't get nothing done. None of us respected him.
                I understand where you coming from, the guy has been a disapointing since his loss to maravilla, but i do think hes been criticize a lot more than other fighters with the same mistakes that he makes, if he doesnt come true this time with garcia he should retire and that is it. I do believe that the good he does to boxing when he is looking good, outweighs the bad, he brings fans and puts a good show, if he can get his head right he could become a glen johnson, arturo gatti kind of fighter, not the best but a fighter that from time to time beats a good boxer and is always fun to watch.

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                • #9
                  If Chavez puts in the work he could possibly shut some people up, that would be on him to prove though.


                  Chavez Jr. has generally exceeded my expectations of him since he matters and I thought he would be a nobody. He has been involved in a lot of bs throughout his career, I can't think of a guy really involved in more.

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                  • #10
                    What's the author talking about? Goku totally passed on his qualities to Gohan. Gohan even went Super Saiyan 2 before Goku.

                    Clearly there's no need to read the rest of this nonsense!

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