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Bert Sugar's 100 Greatest Fighters List......Give Me Your Opinion!
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Postso only guys who have boxed professionaly are taken seriously when ATG lists are put up, is what you are saying?
Bert Sugar has followed boxing for 50yrs, he was editor of the 2 biggest fight publications, "Boxing Illustrated & Ring Magazine" he has sat ringside for thousands of fights and wrote dozens of books and articles on the sport, yet you are claiming the guy has `No Idea`
Now I would have a hard time taking a basketball analyst seriously who never played the game, why should it be any different for boxing?
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Originally posted by DeepSleep View PostNow don't put words in my mouth, I said nothing about professional. In order to understand a sport it is required you have had experience playing it. Basketball analysts are ex-basketball players, football analysts are ex-football players, yet in Boxing you get plenty of guys who never boxed at all who claim to be experts.
Now I would have a hard time taking a basketball analyst seriously who never played the game, why should it be any different for boxing?
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Originally posted by Pirao View PostMike Tyson and Evander are in there, but not Lennox? GTFO.
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Postif Bert was to put Lennox in he may as well put Danny Williams & Kevin McBride in because they beat Tyson when he was years past his best just like Lewis did, infact they both beat him easier than what Lewis did.. Lewis was unfortunate to only get a draw with a old Holyfield but Evander was robbed in their return fight, Lewis got KOd by a couple of journeymen fighters and beat a bunch of hand-picked Class C fighters, so Bert rightly gives Lennox zero credit for beating ATG legends Holyfield & Tyson
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View PostBoxing - Ray Arcel , Gil Clancy & Eddie Futch never boxed yet they was the most knowledgable men in the history of the sport, i could name you a 100 successful football managers who never played the sport, the same goes for swimming, Horse Racing, Motor racing etc etc
One can't deny Bert Sugar's contributions to the sport but I'm not so sure about how knowledgeable he truly is. Not only about boxing itself but its history. His writings and speeches are often inaccurate and he doesn't even seem to care whether he is being factual or not, considering that he keeps repeating myths that have long since been proven wrong.
He is a good writer however and tells a story better than most people could and he did do great work with the Ring Magazine.
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View PostBoxing - Ray Arcel , Gil Clancy & Eddie Futch never boxed yet they was the most knowledgable men in the history of the sport, i could name you a 100 successful football managers who never played the sport, the same goes for swimming, Horse Racing, Motor racing etc etc
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Postif Bert was to put Lennox in he may as well put Danny Williams & Kevin McBride in because they beat Tyson when he was years past his best just like Lewis did, infact they both beat him easier than what Lewis did.. Lewis was unfortunate to only get a draw with a old Holyfield but Evander was robbed in their return fight, Lewis got KOd by a couple of journeymen fighters and beat a bunch of hand-picked Class C fighters, so Bert rightly gives Lennox zero credit for beating ATG legends Holyfield & Tyson
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