Tim Bradley vs. Devon Alexander: Why Amateur Boxing Is Killing Boxing

[Come∂ian]

I was reading an article by Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! Sports today and I was dumbfounded by the premise of the piece: "Bradley ready for Pacquiao, Mayweather."

That dude needs to stick to sports he understands.

Wetzel actually tried to argue that Timothy Bradley deserves a big fight against either Floyd Mayweather, Jr. or Manny Pacquiao. Puhleese!

Seriously, why does Bradley deserve anything like that?

Last night Don King and Gary Shaw had to paper the hall to get 5,000 or so fans to show up for a fight between Bradley and undefeated Devon Alexander in a Detroit suburb—and that was actually a big crowd to see a Bradley fight.

When he boxes at the Morongo Casino, near his hometown of Palm Springs, CA, he's lucky to get 2,000 people to show up—and even fewer people to actually pay.

Why does one of the top rated Junior Welterweights in the world draw so badly? I'll tell you why. His fights are unbearable to watch and Saturday's bout was no exception.

Saturday night two undefeated fighters put on one of the worst fights of the year—not because the two boxers lack skill, but because they have boring styles and they don't ever try to win their bouts.


Yeah right.
They work not to lose.

The reason for this is quite obvious to me: Both men fought for years in the amateurs.

And amateur boxing stinks.

Ever since amateur boxing changed their scoring rules in 1992, fighters have been rewarded for pitty pat punches and defensive fighting. That in turn has produced fighters that are not entertaining and are clearly killing the sport.

That's why fighters like Manny Pacquiao and even Ricky Hatton have done so well at the box office.

Clearly the two fighters are in a different stratosphere. Pacquaio is a Hall of Famer and Hatton is not, but Hatton put on entertaining fights, which in turn put fannies in the seats.

A prime example was his fight with Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd probably would have been satisfied putting on another one of his snooze-inducing 12-round boxing clinics but Ricky was having none of it.

By pushing the action he forced Floyd to fight and what fans got was one of Money May's most entertaining performances of the last few years.

The fact is, this is professional boxing and no one wants to see a glorified Golden Gloves bout for 12 rounds—which is what you get when you see fighters like Bradley and Alexander.

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Bradley should be counting his blessings that he will probably get to fight Amir Khan in the near future.

After Khan's entertaining match with Marco Maidana, the Englishman clearly doesn't need Bradley at all. He could fight stiffs for the next two years and make as much money as he would for fighting Bradley.

The real payday for Khan would be a rematch with Maidana. Lots of people would pay to see that one again.

Marco might not be as skilled as Bradley or Alexander but he comes to fight, and the Argentine's matches are always entertaining.

That's probably because he wasn't groomed as an amateur for years like many American fighters. Like Pacquiao and Hatton before him, Maidana was groomed as a professional, and it shows.

A lot of people have been critical of amateur fighting and it's rules over the years.

To many fans it isn't real boxing.

I won't go that far, but it sure isn't a good launching pad for a professional career in my mind.

And last night's snooze-inducing HBO fight was Exhibit A.

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[Russian Crushin]

Deserves it more then anybody else pretty much

He has taken out pretty much everybod but Khan over the years

[AddiX]

I agree they need to change the rules for amateur boxing, it makes no sense that you get 0 points for knocking someone down or landing the more effective punches.

But you have to realize that amateur boxing is to build the fighters ability to learn how to land punches.

But most boxing fans don't even follow amateur boxing or have never boxed themselves so I wouldn't expect them to know crap about it. I enjoy amateur boxing, when you get 2 top 10 amateurs in there weight and who the only thing on the line is pride, fighting in a 3 round fight its all action.

Support amateur boxing, these kids work hard for it.

[New England]

good general set of points in the OP


a couple things to point out:
ricky hatton is a first ballot hall of famer

he lost twice to the best p4p fighter in the world at the time
and to no one else



but in terms of the lack of fight changing punches being thrown
and the lack of ability / knowhow to throw them

yeah i have to agree 100%

the point system in the AMs is ruining boxing at the pro level
you arent the first to point it out

amature boxing matches arent even fights anymore
they are scoring matches

it's more like fencing and less like professional boxing



what it still gives to a young fighter :
conditioning
exposure to many fighters of all shapes, sizes, ages, abilities, and styles
muscle memory (to move, flurry, etc, not sit on meaningful punches, or how to pick the right ones, which is how it should be if you want to be a professional)
international experience (at the top)
confidence and a winning mentality (a champion is a champion. i dont care if he gets there via pts or brutal stoppages)


there will still be "Fighters" who come up from the american AM system

go ask brandon rios about his AM experience
it is lengthy.
then watch him fight... dude is the definition of a professional fighter

[{Pito}]

Cosign addix, till u compete u dont know the feeling of boxing, regardless of amateur or pro status. The op has some points though. Its the scoring system that's really behind all that I believe as well. perhaps its the fighters who stick to their amateur coaches in through their pro career. Perhaps? Because ive seen amateur fighters change to better more pro oriented trainers and they do well.