Comments Thread For: WBC: No Voluntary, Cotto-Canelo Victor Must Face GGG

[borikua]

Good point, do you think if FMJ tells WBC he is willing to fight Cotto for MW belt they will allow Cotto a voluntary defense?

Of course, it's all about the $$$.

[The plunger man]

LOL. Do you honestly believe DLH would remove the lineal title from Canelo if he wins?

What world do you live in?

That's not his choice ward man.....the simple fact the ring lineal champion is awarded by the ring magazine and them only....and the WBC has already stated no voluntary defences before the they have to meet golovkin.....that's if canelo avoids the fight with golovkin....canelo I imagine is not that sort of fighter to avoid his challenges and he did with Lara that he agreed to the fight....canelo if he says no he will not have a belt and besides who else can give canelo a big PPV besides golovkin....no one likes champions who don't accept there mandatory....it's about time boxing went back to how it was when you faced the best and you took your losses like a man......as I said the ring magazine has already said they will follow suit if the WBC strips the winner of canelo and cotto if they avoid there mandatory....champions should act like champions it's that simple...with no belt what exactly will a guy who insists n catchweights do with out a championship belt...wake up ward man

[sirron000]

That's not his choice ward man.....the simple fact the ring lineal champion is awarded by the ring magazine and them only....and the WBC has already stated no voluntary defences before the they have to meet golovkin.....that's if canelo avoids the fight with golovkin....canelo I imagine is not that sort of fighter to avoid his challenges and he did with Lara that he agreed to the fight....canelo if he says no he will not have a belt and besides who else can give canelo a big PPV besides golovkin....no one likes champions who don't accept there mandatory....it's about time boxing went back to how it was when you faced the best and you took your losses like a man......as I said the ring magazine has already said they will follow suit if the WBC strips the winner of canelo and cotto if they avoid there mandatory....champions should act like champions it's that simple...with no belt what exactly will a guy who insists n catchweights do with out a championship belt...wake up ward man

How the heck does GGG give Canelo a big PPV numbers, Canelo did better numbers with Angulo.

Sounds like Lil G and his fans are in need of a big PPV not the other way around. 150K, what superstar-cash cow has ever done those numbers?

Damn FMJ didn't have all this push when he did his first PPV and did triple the numbers. Manny did triple the numbers against Algeri.

GGG has no cross over appeal until he fights someone with a pulse. You my friend need to release the grip on Lil G's scrotum sack so they can grow.

[Larry the boss]

Who do you think establishes title lineages in boxing ... God?

Boxing sites and boxing writers decide who the lineal champs are, and new lineages can be established whenever they believe it's necessary.

At this point in boxing history, the most influencial "they" are the Ring magazine.

If the Ring decides that Cotto or Canelo no longer have the right to be considered lineal champ of the MW division, because of refusal to face Golovkin, they will announce that and create a new lineage begining with GGG.

A few people would refuse to accept it, but that will make no difference. GGG will start calling himself the lineal MW champ, and that's how he will be billed and announced whenever he fights.

lol...no only way a lineage can be broken is if the lineal champ loses,retires or moves out of the division,..

[Larry the boss]

[QUOTE=Progrssive_Jedi;16152884]Here is RING MAGAZINE Rules of Ranking

RATING PANEL / CHAMPIONSHIP POLICY

Championship vacancies can be filled in the following two ways:

THE RING’s Nos. 1 and 2 contenders fight one another.
If the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders chose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded THE RING belt if the Editorial Board deems the contenders worthy.

Here is how the Ring can Strip (I put in bold the relevant info to Canelo/Cotto)

Here are the seven situations in which a champion can lose his belt:

1. The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.

2. The Champion moves to another weight class.

3. The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.

4. The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).

5. The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.

6. The Champion retires.

7. The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.

If Canelo vacates, the excuse will be they are going back to 154. De la Hoya has basically said that.

Now sure, they can just fight at 155, and keep it. But how does that look to fans, who know Ring Mag is owned by Goldenboy

Good one! Very witty!

Canelo or Cotto still gonna lose.





Not true, as proved above.



The Lineal can be stripped. Since Goldenboy owns Ring, it's doubtful it will happen.

But don't think that everyone won't know about it.

This is why Ring would be under pressure to do the right thing.

Ring does not=Lineal champion

[The plunger man]

How the heck does GGG give Canelo a big PPV numbers, Canelo did better numbers with Angulo.

Sounds like Lil G and his fans are in need of a big PPV not the other way around. 150K, what superstar-cash cow has ever done those numbers?

Damn FMJ didn't have all this push when he did his first PPV and did triple the numbers. Manny did triple the numbers against Algeri.

GGG has no cross over appeal until he fights someone with a pulse. You my friend need to release the grip on Lil G's scrotum sack so they can grow.

Crossover appeal....you mean ward who couldn't even sell out a cleaners store in Madison square garden..who's he fighting next ? Rohan (dandelion and burdoch) Murdoch lol GTFOH ...as I said canelo vs golovkin is the next big PPV event and canelo has to fight golovkin or he gets stripped of the title...u might come from a long line of gutless ward mongoloids...there no way round it canelo or cotto has to face golovkin next or they become belt less .....just like your hero ward belt less and no place to run unless he is man enough to take on kovalev.....as said they have to fight golovkin next it's that simple....it's the way it is

[Shadoww702]

$$$$

Cotto and Saul are going to do GREAT ppv numbers. Both are going to agree on a rematch and make MORE $$$$. Then Floyd is going to get bored and want some more cash and the limelight... GGG is going to ppv Andy "I got stomped by Chavez" Lee and do maybe 200k buys. GGG fans just need to face facts. Neither guy needs him. He needs them. 150k??? Wow!!! And he think he runs sht. They're going to LAUGH at his 50-50 split, no CW terms and tell him F-off.

[The plunger man]

lol...no only way a lineage can be broken is if the lineal champ loses,retires or moves out of the division,..

Ring magazine actually said they will declare the lineal title vacant if cotto or canelo refuse to fight golovkin... They did say that if the cotto and canelo fight ends closely and controversially and they rematch they will wait till cotto and canelo have sorted there business..probably Oscar is plotting a draw or bad decision so he gets one more big payday before they have to face the bogey man ...just accept Larry the lamb

[The plunger man]

How the heck does GGG give Canelo a big PPV numbers, Canelo did better numbers with Angulo.

Sounds like Lil G and his fans are in need of a big PPV not the other way around. 150K, what superstar-cash cow has ever done those numbers?

Damn FMJ didn't have all this push when he did his first PPV and did triple the numbers. Manny did triple the numbers against Algeri.

GGG has no cross over appeal until he fights someone with a pulse. You my friend need to release the grip on Lil G's scrotum sack so they can grow.

Face reality son.....they have to face golovkin or they get stripped....man up

[Shadoww702]

Nope

Canelo doesn't really care about belts or Lara wouldn't still have one. Saul would fight GGG but ODH won't let him until he fights at least two MWs. And sees how he handles that.