Calzaghe fans are in damage control; legacy shattered

[The Noose]

I think there is something very important that the TS and the calzaghe haters are forgetting...no one really knows how good andre ward is!!!! He could go on to become a great fighter, maybe even an all-time great, also to consider is that ward is by far the worst style clash for kessler in the tourny, let it play it out, lets, see what happens before you idiots jump to the conclusion that kessler is a bad fighter.

Things to consider also are that fact that if you have followed calzaghe's career with enough attention you would know that he was definitely in physical decline by the time he fought kessler, he was maybe a smarter fighter, but I believe the joe that fought kessler was slower, and had awful hand trouble in comparison to the fighter that fought, eubank, reid, brewer, woodhall, mitchell.

Say what you will about the hopkins fight, you an bring up his age...the fact that it was a close decision...whatever. Fact is some of b-hop best performances came just before that fight, and even after. He has beaten some great fighters, some very one-sided (tarver, pavlik) but yet he couldn't dominate calzaghe, if anything he looked physically tired, was faking injury to buy himself time. I didn't see that when he fought tarver, pavlik, wright, and even the taylor losses.

This should tell you that joe calzaghe is a great fighter. I think the strongest calzaghe fans will tell you he has a modest resume, but to say his legacy is shattered because of what happened is beyond nonesense.

sPOT ON. .........

[Pullcounter]

calz legacy is garbage, he should not have quit

[daggum]

He was coming off 2 wins by KO.

It was Calzaghe's first title fight, Eubank was a seasoned veteran who put in a performance better than he had shown in many years.

Good win for a young Calzaghe.

you count ko wins over complete bums as notable wins? figures. last time he fought someone decent he lost. twice in fact. he can beat all the bums he wants he was finished.

[daggum]

Calzaghe tried to make fights with Jones, Hopkins, Ottke and Taylor. He should of been more like your boy Hopkins and fought hobbits, elves and pixies instead.

his own promoter would dispute that and says he made easy fights cause joe was insecure about losing. calzaghe wouldn't even fight glen johnson and you think he wanted to fight hopkins or jones? the guy didn't want none it's so obvious. why didn't he move to their weight divisions or fight someone ranked to get a fight with them? amazingly he just stood pat and fought bums. your gullible ass would believe every single word calzaghe says.

[Sir Tom Jones]

his own promoter would dispute that and says he made easy fights cause joe was insecure about losing. calzaghe wouldn't even fight glen johnson and you think he wanted to fight hopkins or jones? the guy didn't want none it's so obvious. why didn't he move to their weight divisions or fight someone ranked to get a fight with them? amazingly he just stood pat and fought bums. your gullible ass would believe every single word calzaghe says.

you take note of what frank warren says?

He ****s on Ricky Hatton and Joe because they left him.

[Adamantium]

Ok so by your logic Calzaghe shoudln't get any credit for beating Hopkins since Hopkins started at middleweight. That Hopkins only beat smaller fighters is a myth, fighters grow just like normal people. almost no fighter stays at the same weightclass his whole career. Felix Trinidad was a middleweight(and no he didn't cheat thats just you making **** up), ODLH was a light middleweight atleast.

Bernard Hopkins pro debut LHW

[Adamantium]

his own promoter would dispute that and says he made easy fights cause joe was insecure about losing. calzaghe wouldn't even fight glen johnson and you think he wanted to fight hopkins or jones? the guy didn't want none it's so obvious. why didn't he move to their weight divisions or fight someone ranked to get a fight with them? amazingly he just stood pat and fought bums. your gullible ass would believe every single word calzaghe says.

link, or it didnt happen.

[daggum]

you take note of what frank warren says?

He ****s on Ricky Hatton and Joe because they left him.

yes when their is evidence to back it up(joes career)

you take note of what calzaghe a known liar and ducker says?

[daggum]

link, or it didnt happen.

there is an interview on boxingscene from about a year ago. you wouldn't remember it cause you didn't know what boxing was back then(still don't) search around and you will find it.

[Sir Tom Jones]

yes when their is evidence to back it up(joes career)

you take note of what calzaghe a known liar and ducker says?

a known liar and ducker? what are you talking about?

You have no proof? Decided to make it up? Well done.