Manny had already compromised by agreeing to a blood test.

[rommel357]

So why can't Floyd agree to the 3 blood test of one before the press conference, another one 24 days before the fight, and one right after the fight. Again, Manny compromised for the second time by taking the blood test later like he did with Hatton 24 days prior to the fight which was brought up by Floyd's camp. I'd like to see anyone try to come up with an excuse for Floyd this time.

[johncods]

to top that floyd didn't even counter offer.. he just flat out said NO!!!!.. if they want a cut off date then say it then they should work from there.. just shows you who doesn't really want the fight..

[hugh grant]

Pac was trying to compromise and do more for PBF than he had done for any other opponent but still not enough for PBF.

That goes to show you that floyd is more insecure than anyone Pac has ever fought, and needs more reassurance than any boxer in history. What does that tell you about the man?

MIke Tyson used to cry before fights because he was nervous. PBF is even worse than that.

[rocky_balboa23]

one word "FLOYDING".....................

[mike19727]

Dead issue, both fighters let the fans down. Something is still shady with Manny not wanting to do random blood tests inside of 24 days. But, Mayweather is a big ***** who probably didn't even want to fight Pac in the first place. Both are taking garbage fights next, so they can both screw themselves.

[GameGod]

Very easy.

Pacquiao's strategy would simply be to begin training with HGH now and stop using it about 10 days before the first test. Then, after the test, he will start using it again. Then, he will stop again, with plenty of muscle already, for the last 10 days before the fight. That way, it will definitely have left his system by the after-fight test. Was this really not obvious to you?

A test 30 days (or 24 days) before the fight will not suffice. Nor will a test 2 days before (Pacquiao could just stop the drug two days earlier - that wouldn't harm him, because he already had enough time to use the drug. It is necessary to have random testing so that Pacquiao's camp cannot schedule the use of the drug to make sure it is never detected.

Come on! Why do some people never think of these things?

Dead issue, both fighters let the fans down. Something is still shady with Manny not wanting to do random blood tests inside of 24 days. But, Mayweather is a big ***** who probably didn't even want to fight Pac in the first place. Both are taking garbage fights next, so they can both screw themselves.

Well, he did agree to the fight. I don't see how Mayweather is being a ***** to not agree to fight someone who is probably on drugs, without that person at least proving that he made an all-time world record in excellent style was clean. Pacquiao has had strong power at Featherweight, but as he has gone up the effect of the power has actually grown! Now the burden of proof is on him, and no one should fight him if he doesn't prove to be innocent.

[GTR]

Fights off. Floyd fear overrules all.

[RockStar45]

Very easy.

Pacquiao's strategy would simply be to begin training with HGH now and stop using it about 10 days before the first test. Then, after the test, he will start using it again. Then, he will stop again, with plenty of muscle already, for the last 10 days before the fight. That way, it will definitely have left his system by the after-fight test. Was this really not obvious to you?

That's silly. Pacquiao was already big enough to fight at welterweight in December 2008. How much muscle does he need to put on in 3 months?

[mike19727]

Dead issue, both fighters let the fans down. Something is still shady with Manny not wanting to do random blood tests inside of 24 days. But, Mayweather is a big ***** who probably didn't even want to fight Pac in the first place. Both are taking garbage fights next, so they can both screw themselves.

Very easy.

Pacquiao's strategy would simply be to begin training with HGH now and stop using it about 10 days before the first test. Then, after the test, he will start using it again. Then, he will stop again, with plenty of muscle already, for the last 10 days before the fight. That way, it will definitely have left his system by the after-fight test. Was this really not obvious to you?

A test 30 days (or 24 days) before the fight will not suffice. Nor will a test 2 days before (Pacquiao could just stop the drug two days earlier - that wouldn't harm him, because he already had enough time to use the drug. It is necessary to have random testing so that Pacquiao's camp cannot schedule the use of the drug to make sure it is never detected.

Come on! Why do some people never think of these things?



Well, he did agree to the fight. I don't see how Mayweather is being a ***** to not agree to fight someone who is probably on drugs, without that person at least proving that he made an all-time world record in excellent style was clean. Pacquiao has had strong power at Featherweight, but as he has gone up the effect of the power has actually grown! Now the burden of proof is on him, and no one should fight him if he doesn't prove to be innocent.

Pac should have agreed to the random test to shut everyone up. And the excuses his camp and biggest fans have come up with over the last few weeks has been pathetic. But, Mayweather would probably just come up with another excuse even if he agreed to the tests. He's always been more concerned with keeping his zero than fighting the best.

[GameGod]

That's silly. Pacquiao was already big enough to fight at welterweight in December 2008. How much muscle does he need to put on in 3 months?

The more muscle, the better, and believe me, if he was on drugs (which I reckon he probably is) Pacquiao would want to build as much muscle as possible for such a tough opponent. And HGH makes it possible for him to pack on huge amounts of muscle in 3 months.

The eventual effect of enough muscle is similar to what happens when a much heavier person fights a much lighter person (hence the reason for the weight classes): the lighter person's punches will simply not be able to hurt them or force them back. Floyd's style of countering means that originally, when swarming him on the ropes, Manny would (theoretically) get slammed by a couple of jabs and be forced to move back in shock, allowing Floyd to get out and start dodging again.

However, if Pacquiao does not move back (which a normal person would, but not someone who is much heavier, or who has vastly more muscle), then it is an entirely different story.

Pac should have agreed to the random test to shut everyone up. And the excuses his camp and biggest fans have come up with over the last few weeks has been pathetic. But, Mayweather would probably just come up with another excuse even if he agreed to the tests. He's always been more concerned with keeping his zero than fighting the best.

I agree with the first half.

About Mayweather making up another excuse, it's possible, but that's not what the topic is about.