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Originally posted by Vadrigar.
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Good video.
Now heres my own little mini-breakdown. Enjoy: )
The reach advantage Conor would have over Floyd would be another huge factor
A lot of people dont realise how important reach was to Floyd
Floyd avoided a chinney Khan just because Khan had a long reach
Floyd even had more reach and height then Canelo for crying out loud
You will notice that Floyd NEVER fought anyone with more reach then himself
Think about all the times Floyd was bullying around a significantly shorter armed fighter. When their return fire would barely miss Floyd by centimeters and Floyd would counter off it safely from his range.
Now imagine Conor in those same situations with his freakish long arms
Those punches from Conor dont miss Floyd by a centimeter...they land, and Floyd's counter responses will miss (also due to the fact Conor has a modified karate stance where his head is a little further back)
You see one of the things that IS universal across all combat sports IS understanding of distance - and Conor has a flawless understanding and command of distance
Not only that, Conor IS aware of all the set ups and tricks Floyd uses...because Conor utilises the same setups and tricks
Here is Conor utilising the same pull away counter set up via distance deception, that Floyd does
Look how Conor is leaning his head forward off the center line to appear as a closer target, and draw out the jab, which is the typical response in southpaw vs southpaw or orthodox vs orthodox engagements
Conor then pulls back and counters
This means every time Floyd is trying to set Conor up with distance deception, Conor WILL INSTANTLY see it from a mile away, avoid it, and or shut it down - because multiple forms of distance deception are huge staples of Conor's game too
I can even see Conor throwing out a bait shot to lure Floyd out for the pull away counter, Conor then changing head slots, and then instantly coming up with the real shot to counter Floyd's counter
Its exactly how Marcos ROCKED Floyd
So Floyd HAS BEEN OUT-SMARTED before by boxers who were not known for being smart
Marcos throws out the bait jab to lure Floyd into his pull away counter attempt, Marcos instantly changes head slots then comes with the right straight to counter Floyd's attempted counter
Floyd was BADLY OUT SMARTED by a brawler right there. Floyd was made to look like a fool by a brawler right there
We also know with Conor being a southpaw that Floyd shoulder rolling would put him in direct line of the left
BUT Floyd when facing southpaws rarely ever shoulder rolls
Against southpaws Floyd typically likes to work behind a high guard, establish the jab, and time right straight leads
Here are the problems with that against Conor:
1. Conor is longer with more reach and wont be controlled on the outside with jabs
2. Conor, like Floyd, is amazing at giving different looks, switching things up and switching speeds and tempo
This is why fienting never works against Conor, despite fienting usually being the solution against your normal average counter strikers....this is why fighters struggle to ever time Conor consistently
Just as hard as it is to time Floyd, its just as hard to time Conor
Floyd spent his career avoiding other great counter strikers for a reason.
Conor WONT be stepping in predictably to be timed by right leads
And Conor also LOVES to counter the right straight from orthodox fighters...so it gets very interesting stylistically
Floyd jabbing would also leave him open to Conor's split entry counter lefts
A split entry counter left is when you are pre-emptively moving your head side to side (or when you take your head off the center line to the outside shoulder of the jab hand) and then just as the jab comes kwhile your head is off the center) you simultaneously shoot the left-straight, under the jab, splitting it, hence it being called a split entry counter
Manny Pacquiao despite being MUCH SHORTER with much less reach then Floyd, had tremendous success against Floyd via countering Floyd off his jabs
Manny ROCKED Floyd several times with split entry counter lefts
Here was this one too
Many simply is planted in a high guard, waiting for the jab, blocks it, parries it, and then shoots the counter left as Floyd is vulnerable and not in position to defend
Conor is a superb counter striker period...
And Floyd consistently jabbing will give Conor countering oppurtunities regardless of how great Floyd is
The ONE time Floyd ever fough a southpaw who could counter well, was Zab Judah.... and Judah was badly out boxing Floyd until Floyd had to dig deep to adjust and pull out the win
The thing is, Conor was a LEGIT amature boxing champion FROM IRELAND. Thats legit as ****. Ireland is right up there pound for pound with Cuba when it comes to pure skill based boxing
Conor simply DECIDED TO NOT persue boxing any further
It was Conor's choice not to....
Conor wanted to persue MMA where there were more options to be free in attack etc
Conor has a LEGIT ass boxing base, but with enough added UNCOVENTIONAL ADDITIONS, that he could genuinely catch Floyd off guard and surpise him
How is Floyd going to react to somebody with the footspeed and ring cutting of Conor
(Even the great Manny Pacquiao was not a good ring cutter - just foot speed)
Someboy whos long, and fights long and who has more reach like Conor
Someobody who boxes from a modified karate stance like Conor, that Floyd has never seen before in his life
Somebody who has all the unconventional and unorthodox qualities to stump Floyd YET still has a legit boxing base and is a superb counter striker
Somebody who has THE REAL confidence of Conor, who wont be intimidated by Floyd, and who will look at Floyd like hes genuinely an inferior piece of **** - like Conor will look at him like
People are going to be very suprised
All the ingredients are there for the biggest upset in human history
And who knows what would happen if Conor took a year off to just improve his boxing, while Floyd continued to get older
Remember though, Conor just going to decision with Floyd would be a victory in itself
Conor landing shots would be a victory
And CONOR WILL LAND big shots on Floyd
Floyd would likely decision Conor, but dont be suprised when Conor makes it very difficult for Floyd...or if Conor actually does it - and knocks Floyd out...
Regardless Conor isnt going for any moral victories. He will be coming to win
Floyd is the best match up possible for Conor in boxing...
A passive puncher with a low work rate who CAN NOT HURT Conor, whos a counter fighter just like Conor is (both utilise the same set ups) yet Conor is longer, more reach, has a legit boxing base z but yet is also uncoventional and unorthodox enough to stump Floyd
Hopefully youve been learned now
More and more from the boxing world are coming out and saying that Conor would actually be a lot of trouble for Floyd
Yee have faith in Lord Conor for thou not truly understand what thy Lord Conor is truly capable of
Canelo and Ghost were WAAAY taller, with waaaay longer arms. Pac's arms looked longer than Floyd's as well, although Floyd was taller.
Canelo was a giant. Pac and JMM are the only opponents that Floyd has towered over. Floyd has no advantages over basically all of his opponents, except skills
Floyd has OP so butthurt, he wrote a thesis.
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