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If Floyd fights and beats Cotto and Canelo: Ties Pacquiao for Lineal Titles?
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostVernon Forrest wasn't the lineal champ. He was the WBC champ...WBC does NOT equal lineage. And, even if Vernon was and vacating when he passed. Martinez would still have to fight at the next best guy to get the lineal title. There is no interim lineal champion.
I cant believe someone would actually think there was such a thing.
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Originally posted by turbotime View PostSee the rest of the post. It got vacated and Canelo has ended up with it.
Originally posted by turbotime View PostA fight between Canelo and Floyd (if he gets past Cotto) will be for the RING, the WBC and WBA world titles, making him the lineal champion.
If you disagree how did Pac and Marquez only fight for one title at 130 and have it declared a lineal title? Or Barrera and Pac at 126?
You don't have to have alphabet soup titles to fight for the lineal title. having extra titles don't make it a lineal championship fight either. JMM-Pac received it for the being the top 2 recognized fighters in their division. Not just by the ring but universally.
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostYou lost me here. Are you saying Canelo ended up with the lineal title?
Barrera was already the lineal champion at 126 before fighting Pac. He got that title from Hamed who was the lineal champ, who got that title from Vazquez who was the lineal champ before hand.
You don't have to have alphabet soup titles to fight for the lineal title. having extra titles don't make it a lineal championship fight either. JMM-Pac received it for the being the top 2 recognized fighters in their division. Not just by the ring but universally.
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He would, but it would be a cheap way to do it. Alvarez did nothing to be the #2, he was quickly moved from 10 to 2 after the joke Hatton fight and for beating Rhodes. Cotto atleast beat a champion.
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Originally posted by turbotime View PostNo I'm saying Canelo ended up with a chunk that was left behind, as did Cotto. If Floyd takes Cotto's belt and fights for Canelo's WBC belt, ON TOP of the RING championship, and being ranked the #1 and #2 division, he will then be the lineal champion if he wins there.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostA chunk of what? Ther aren't chunks of a lineal championship. Vernon Forrest was never lineal champ. The lineage ended at Winky. There really is no argument for it to start at Floyd-Canelo.
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Originally posted by turbotime View PostNo I'm saying Canelo ended up with a chunk that was left behind, as did Cotto. If Floyd takes Cotto's belt and fights for Canelo's WBC belt, ON TOP of the RING championship, and being ranked the #1 and #2 division, he will then be the lineal champion if he wins there.
Vacant lineal titles all you need is universally the top 2 guys in the division fight each other. Not just the top 2 guys by one source like the ring. But, the top 2 guys universally. It doesn't matter if the other titles are on the line or not.
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