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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostThat'd be pretty true if other guys hadn't gotten in so easily, mainly Kostya Tszyu, Barry McGuigan, and Brian Mitchell.
Tszyu's wins: Jake Rodriguez, Roger Mayweather, Hugo Pineda, Jan Bergman, Rafael Ruelas, Miguel Gonzalez, Julio Cesar Chavez (way past his prime), Sharmba Mitchell, Oktay Urkal, Zab Judah, and Jesse Leija.
McGuigan's wins: Eusebio Pedroza, Bernard Taylor, and Danilo Cabrera.
Mitchell's wins: Daniel Londas, Jackie Beard, Jim McDonnell, Tony Lopez, and Frankie Mitchell.
Those guys are in already.
Corrales' wins: Roberto Garcia, Derrick Gainer, Justin Juuko, Angel Manfredy, Joel Casamayor, Acelino Freitas, and Jose Luis Castillo.
Castillo's wins: Jorge Paez, Cesar Bazan, Stevie Johnston, Juan Lazcano, Joel Casamayor, Julio Diaz, and Diego Corrales. Should also have a win over Floyd Mayweather probably.
Hatton's wins: Kostya Tszyu, Carlos Maussa, Luis Collazo, Juan Urango, Jose Luis Castillo (past his prime though), Juan Lazcano, and Paulie Malignaggi.
Genaro's wins: Daniel Londas, Raul Perez, Jorge Ramirez, Jorge Paez, Azumah Nelson, Anatoly Alexandrov, Carlos Hernandez, and Carlos Gerena.
When comparing the resume's of the guys in to the guys who "don't deserve to be in", it's interesting. I'll take Corrales and Castillo's best wins at the very least equal to Tszyu's, and far better than McGuigan or Mitchell. And Genaro and Hatton are clearly superior to Mitchell and McGuigan's resume's.
and mitchell gets his props for fighting in everyone elses backyard...totall different situations that hatton/corrales/castillo
hatton's best wins are terrible, how did you possibly not put zoo as past prime?
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Originally posted by turbotime View PostCastillo and Corrales will be in the HOF.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostIf Tszyu, Mitchell, and McGuigan are in based on their resume's.....why not Diego Coralles or Jose Luis Castillo with their resume??? Even Richy Hatton and Genaro Hernandez have far better resumes than Brian Mitchell and Barry McGuigan. S**t, Zab Judah has a better resume than Mitchell and McGuigan.
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Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Postwow, everyone every year uses barry mcguigan....so tired man please.
and mitchell gets his props for fighting in everyone elses backyard...totall different situations that hatton/corrales/castillo
hatton's best wins are terrible, how did you possibly not put zoo as past prime?
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Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Postborderline AT BEST........ very very borderline. corrales might get helped out by how he died
not because of their resume but because of people's memories of their fight against each other.
and also corrales dying young will help him of course.
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Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Postwow, everyone every year uses barry mcguigan....so tired man please.
and mitchell gets his props for fighting in everyone elses backyard...totall different situations that hatton/corrales/castillo
hatton's best wins are terrible, how did you possibly not put zoo as past prime?
And Nelson was past his best to when Genaro beat him, but he'd still avenged his only recent loss against Leija and beat Gabriel Ruelas prior to fighting Genaro. He was the recognized #1 SFW when Genaro fougth him.
I'm just saying they can't get picky all of a sudden after letting in those guys. Tszyu, Corrales, Castillo, Genaro, are all borderline. Mitchell and Hatton are sort of in the same boat to me, but Hatton did beat Tszyu when he was still the #1 JWW. That's better than anything Brian Mitchell did.Last edited by 4Corners; 03-30-2012, 07:14 PM.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostCheck my post out on the previous page with the resume's of Tszyu, McGuigan, and Mitchell (in the HOF already), and Hatton, Genaro, Corrales, and Castillo's resumes (possible HOF fighters in the future. Corrales and Castillo's best wins > Tszyu's best wins. And Hatton/Genaro resume > McGuigan and Mitchell's resumes. And Hatton beat Kostya H2H when Kostya was the #1 JWW in the world and hadn't lost in years.
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