Originally posted by squealpiggy
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Is Islam a viloent religion?
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Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Postwell in the sense that Christianity should be based off the words of Christ, Christianity is also compeletly non violent.
Besides, the Old Testament is unspeakably violent, and Jesus throughout approves of the Old Testament.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostChristianity is not completely non-violent at all, and the words of christ were occasionally very violent, despite being carefully chosen for non-violence by the Roman Emperor Constantine when he made it the official religion of Rome to appease the violent Christian barbarians that were growing in influence.
Besides, the Old Testament is unspeakably violent, and Jesus throughout approves of the Old Testament.
—Matthew 5:38-42, NIV
I do believe that god would be one of the main violent people in the old testimate, and to claim that because god was violent we our selfs can be violent would be putting our selfs on the same level as god. god is not an example he is a teacher, dont do what he does only what he says, jesus is the example.
or atleast thats what a non violent Christian would say while on the other hand most christians would of course just stick with the whole god was violent so we can be violent.
returning to my point that its really the people and not the religion.
though i guess i cant really say that no religions promote violence.Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 08-11-2010, 04:47 AM.
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Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Postreturning to my point that its really the people and not the religion.
So if there are verses in the Qur'an which instruct Muslims to do certain things, then surely it's the religion itself which is to be held accountable?
But hey, if women are happy to let their man "enter" them whenever they like...
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Originally posted by PittyPat View PostBut the Qur'an is said to be the literal and infallible word of god, whereas the Bible is just a collection of writings by loads of people over time.
So if there are verses in the Qur'an which instruct Muslims to do certain things, then surely it's the religion itself which is to be held accountable?
one can look at the violence as impeding the flow of society and thus not perform the violent act or one can look at the violence as a way to remove what is impeding society thus allowing the violence.
its all up to the person.
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Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Postand theres also verses that instruct them not to impede the flow of society.
Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Postone can look at the violence as impeding the flow of society and thus not perform the violent act or one can look at the violence as a way to remove what is impeding society thus allowing the violence.
Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Postits all up to the person.
Shintoism rules, though. If I had to pick any religion to follow, I'd get with the Japanese. :thumbs1:
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Originally posted by PittyPat View PostThe book is very contradictory in parts. It's all one big muddle, really.
Or one can just read the verse and make a choice on whether or not to do what it says. Simple as. Do what it says it and you're a good Muslim; don't do it and Allah be not pleased - he even 'knows' if one hesitates or has doubts. Oo-er! :scared1:
Not if Allah has anything to do with it. There's no pick and choose, otherwise it's not Islam - at least from what I've gathered (I'm certainly not proclaiming to be an expert on any religion, but I always try and read up on the madness every now and again).
Shintoism rules, though. If I had to pick any religion to follow, I'd get with the Japanese. :thumbs1:
also when you got some priest telling you this or that passage and thus you must do blah blah blah its still your own fault for belonging to a religion you know nothing about.
so its really still up to the person.
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