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Originally posted by Left2theliver View PostWell if you know anything about wrestling as you claim then you'd know that takedowns will work 9/10 times on anyone who has no experience with grappling...that includes the Klitschkos. A good martial artist CAN make it tougher....but that depends who. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practitioner, Judoka, Wrestler, someone who trains something along those lines...yes, probably a lot tougher to get. Kickboxer, Thai Boxer, Boxer, Kung Fu guy, Karateka, TKD guy...not so hard...and yes, shooting a double or single on cement is a dumbass idea...but that's why we have throws, trips, and takedowns from the clinch.
A good wrestler has the ability to contort his body so as to counter takedown attempts. On the professional combat level, it can be expected this day and age that most competent fighters should have at least a rudimentary grasp on this aspect of the game.
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thanks. it is also more difficult to take down a person who is trying like hell to avoid being taken down. and i cant count how many times i have seen a failed takedown in any event where there are takedowns.
A good wrestler has the ability to contort his body so as to counter takedown attempts. On the professional combat level, it can be expected this day and age that most competent fighters should have at least a rudimentary grasp on this aspect of the game.
lefty....takedowns do not work 9/10.
that was just a rediculus statement.
im not even going to argue. u will just say whatever to defend what it is u do. i dont really care.Last edited by j; 07-05-2009, 05:35 AM.
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Originally posted by j View Postthanks. it is also more difficult to take down a person who is trying like hell to avoid being taken down. and i cant count how many times i have seen a failed takedown in any event where there are takedowns.
really, any good trained martial artist will know how to deal with really any situation - save for weapons more or less depending.
lefty....takedowns do not work 9/10.
that was just a rediculus statement.
im not even going to argue. u will just say whatever to defend what it is u do. i dont really care.
if takedowns do not work liken you said, i wonder why so many trained fighters get taken down in MMA matches...
It is really hard to defend takedowns by wrestlers with years of training and experience.
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They couldn't start in the UFC. It's a top tier organization, they would need to fight some bums and earn some experience in actual MMA style fighting (Especially defense) before they would last a minute with any Top 20 HW.
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Originally posted by Move BRICKS View PostThey couldn't start in the UFC. It's a top tier organization, they would need to fight some bums and earn some experience in actual MMA style fighting (Especially defense) before they would last a minute with any Top 20 HW.
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Obvious troll thread is ****in obvious but I'll answer.
A professional boxer especially a high caliber one like either of the Klitschko's with dedicated MMA training in takedown defense, subdefense can be turned into a top rated MMA fighter with 1-2 yrs of training.
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