Have people forgotten how Mayweather cracked early in his career?

[IronDanHamza]

no he couldn't. its not hatred. its looking at evidence and making a conclusion based off that evidence. when floyd hit people flush at 130 he rarely hurt them. hurt meaning losing your bearings, your balance, not being clear headed. that rarely rarely happened when he hit them with his best shot and that means he couldn't punch.

he was the most accurate fighter in boxing and he kept hitting his opponents clean but they were able to take those punches with relative ease. was he fighting the guys with the best chins every single fight? is that what you are saying?

the reality is he just didn't have much power and thats why almost all his stoppages came via the corner pulling their fighters. its never good to take sustained punishment like that and floyd didn't have the power to finish them so they were pulled. the couple "ko's" he had at championship level were very very weak. a very early stoppage against manfredy and justin juuko weakly went down and simply refused to get up even though his head was completely clear. the rest were just corners saying ok no more punishment floyd can't finish him and we can't win.

please explain how he was a big puncher? yes he got more stoppages but don't confuse volume with power. the power just wasn't there when he connected. calling someone a hater isn't a rational argument.

Oh it's not? Sure its not

It's absolutely clear he could punch. When he hit fighters at 130 it's obvious that the punches were effecting them. He beat the **** out of pretty much everyone he faced.

It's the equivalent to saying Pacquaio can't punch at 147.

You don't have to be Golovkin to be a puncher.

[Real King Kong]

You need to go watch the N'Dou fight. N'Dou was a beast that nobody thought Floyd would beat much less stop.

That's just one of 4 off the top of my head.

Floyd was a significant favorite against ndou...as he should have been. The guy barely fought outside south Africa and hadn't really fought anyone. His best win was probably yoni vargas.

[b00g13man]

You need to go watch the N'Dou fight. N'Dou was a beast that nobody thought Floyd would beat much less stop.

That's just one of 4 off the top of my head.

Really? That's certainly not the way I remember it.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Floyd was a significant favorite against ndou...as he should have been. The guy barely fought outside south Africa and hadn't really fought anyone. His best win was probably yoni vargas.

N'Dou had Nelson Mandela himself backing him. He had a 99.5% KO ratio before facing TBE. The only reason people started to favor Mayweather - more the media than actual boxing in the know - is because of Mayweather's vicious trash talk.

Same situation as with Edwin Valero vs. Manny Pacquiao - Valero was 100% KO ratio which is why they were clamoring for that fight too.

[Real King Kong]

N'Dou had Nelson Mandela himself backing him. He had a 99.5% KO ratio before facing TBE. The only reason people started to favor Mayweather - more the media than actual boxing in the know - is because of Mayweather's vicious trash talk.

Same situation as with Edwin Valero vs. Manny Pacquiao - Valero was 100% KO ratio which is why they were clamoring for that fight too.

...or cuz ndou was relatively unknown and untested. I was following the sport then...i know what the lead up was like. Nobody was clamoring for mayweather vs ndou. It was more like "who's this guy?"

[b00g13man]

N'Dou had Nelson Mandela himself backing him. He had a 99.5% KO ratio before facing TBE. The only reason people started to favor Mayweather - more the media than actual boxing in the know - is because of Mayweather's vicious trash talk.

Same situation as with Edwin Valero vs. Manny Pacquiao - Valero was 100% KO ratio which is why they were clamoring for that fight too.

You're very, very wrong about this.

[stuff jones]

Wow a natural WW could punch at 130? This is impressive!

[IronDanHamza]

Wow a natural WW could punch at 130? This is impressive!

How's he a natural WW?

He grew into a WW he wasn't cutting a lot of weight to make 130

[Sweet Jones]

You know. Before the hand injuries.

Most of these dudes never saw the 'Pretty Boy' phase of his career. They think he dropped out of sky for the ODLH fight.

[Bravado]

Paulie Malinaggi, Timothy Bradley, Floyd Mayweather. 3 guys who are all lumped in with the idea of people who can't hit, but the reality of two of them shows that clearly one guy out the three can hit. If people would just be honest for a second, they'd embrace the reality that Floyd can hit and if he couldn't guys would be so capable of just walking through everything he'd throw. They don't. If you fight a guy, and the corner runs in to stop the bout, then they are doing you the favor of making sure you don't get pummeled. Was he a 1 shot KO artist? No. Was he immaculate with his speed and timing? Yes. A corner stoppage and a stoppage by attrition are both in the same boat except your corner did their job and saved you from the obvious beating.