Comments Thread For: Juan For The Ages: Marquez Gets His Knockout Revenge

[awara]

SO now when is the fight with FLOYD

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never bcuz floyd will ask for random blood test i bet he will not fight at this weight bcuz every fighter will ask for random blood test i dont care who he fight next i want him to fight at this weight and come in with same look

[Tony B.]

just watch first knockdown how manny knew that marquez will throw hook before marquez even raise hand to land that punch? he had his gloves right there so it sound loud same like they do in wrestling .i believe it was fixed .Marquez took ped so pac have some argue just look at the pictures of floyd vs marquez weigh in why it was fixed ? for the fifth fight ..i dont think floyd would fight against this suddenly fit marquez ..i want marquez to fight one more fight at the same weight BUT with random blood test but i bet he won't do it and we all know mexicans can do anything to proud mexico remember margarito?

Are you insane? The fight was fixed???? Manny intentionally face-planted himself to the canvas in front of his wife and the world because he wants a 5th fight????? Get the f**k outta here..............

[awara]

Are you insane? The fight was fixed???? Manny intentionally face-planted himself to the canvas in front of his wife and the world because he wants a 5th fight????? Get the f**k outta here..............

its called spot fixing . manny knew knock down in 3rd knockout in 6th round just watch 1st knockdown in slow motion ... i m boxing fan but after this bye bye to boxing ..they should change WBO to WBE

[mikeMack]

Paq got Hattoned

Not sure who went out faster or slept harder? Paq or Hatton??

[fitefan]

its called spot fixing . manny knew knock down in 3rd knockout in 6th round just watch 1st knockdown in slow motion ... i m boxing fan but after this bye bye to boxing ..they should change WBO to WBE

you sound more like a manny fan as opposed to boxing fan

[b Murphington]

its called spot fixing . manny knew knock down in 3rd knockout in 6th round just watch 1st knockdown in slow motion ... i m boxing fan but after this bye bye to boxing ..they should change WBO to WBE

dumbest thing ever posted

[Johnwoo8686]

Another piece of crap journalism on Boxingscene. Marquez was knocked down by Katsidis, so this wasn't his first KD since 2008.

The consistent factual errors on this site are a joke. E.g. Crolla article yesterday saying he lost to Gary Buckland in Prizefighter. He lost to Gary Sykes...

Smartguy, he meant this was the first time Marquez had been down by Pacquiao since 2008. Pacquiao didn't knockdown Marquez last year so yes it's in fact been four years since Pac KD Marquez.

[Dazzaman]

I agree about the PEDS. It was a great fight though. Manny tripped over JMM left foot and got get flush down the pipe. If anyone's thinks a 39 year old man can gain all that muscle mass in 3 months, then you're a fool. I played pro football for 9yrs and there's no way any of my teammates and myself gain muscle mass like that in four months of offseason condition. And we were in our 20's and very early 30's. it just can't happen natural!!! But great fight though.

What muscle mass? He was 3 pounds heavier than he was at his last outing eight months ago. He was also 4 pounds lighter than Manny. Nothing extraordinary at all about his weight gain...it's not difficult at all to gain significant lean weight in a relatively short time span naturally...even at 39. He's a world class athlete, not Joe Blow from No Idea.

[ricomisys]

never bcuz floyd will ask for random blood test i bet he will not fight at this weight bcuz every fighter will ask for random blood test i dont care who he fight next i want him to fight at this weight and come in with same look

The Undetectable PEDS

Enter Angel Memo Heredia, graduate of Texas A&M University and an admitted steroid dealer, who in the past has eschewed the use of steroids in favor of more modern performance enhancing drugs that he referred to as "the main stuff": growth hormone, insulin, EPO, and IGF-1.

To be fair, Heredia maintains that his past is exactly that, just the past. "I've never been banned from coaching. I have the curriculum. I have the science degrees. What we're doing is strictly science," Heredia would comment, defending himself to those who questioned his controversial past during the latest episode of HBO's 24/7 series. That being said, the scientific knowledge that he's accumulated over the years regarding performance enhancing drugs is quite impressive. The son of a chemist, Heredia spent years honing his own knowledge of chemistry, with his family's company, Chopo Laboratory in Mexico City, Mexico, at his disposal. In 2008, following his involvement as a government witness in the BALCO scandal, Heredia granted an in-depth interview to Der Spiegel, a German weekly news magazine, which also happens to be one of Europe's largest publications, giving explicit details on his involvement with and knowledge of performance enhancing drugs and how he got away with beating the testing system. Although the online version is in German, with the help of Google, we we're able to translate it to come up with some rather interesting quotes from Heredia. Here are just a few of the many gems taken from the interview:

"I read anything I could find about medicine, spoke with other athletes, and soon people were saying: Angel knows how it's done. He knows how to pass the tests. The first athletes began to ask me for advice. That's how it started, and at some point the trainer Trevor Graham asked me if I could help him. I explained to him how epo works, and I was in business."

"My father is a chemistry professor. I love chemistry, and I was an athlete. My role was an obsession. For example, I learned everything about testosterone: that there is a type of testosterone with a high half-life and another that works very quickly. I learned that you can rub it in, take it orally, inject it. It became a kick: I was allowed to work with the best of the best, and I made them even better."

"You want an example? Everyone talks about epo. Epo is fashionable. But without adding iron, epo only works half as well. That's the kind of thing you have to know. There are oxygen carriers that make epo work incredibly fast – they are actually better than epo alone. I call my drug "Epo Boost." I inject it and it releases many tiny oxygen molecules throughout the body. In that way you increase the effect of epo by a factor of ten."

"There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don't excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute miracle. I've created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers."

"I had one substance called actovison that increased blood circulation – not detectable. That was good from a health standpoint and even better from a competitive standpoint. Then we had the growth factors IGF-1 and IGF-2. And epo. Epo increases the number of red blood cells and thus the transportation of oxygen, which is the key for every athlete: the athlete wants to recover quickly, keep the load at a constantly high level and achieve a constant performance."

"We have used creams that leave no trace and give the athlete a steadily higher testosterone levels."

"Yes, the only difference is the quality of the doping. Athletes with little money use simple steroids and hope they don't get tested. The stars earn 50,000 dollars a month, not including starting bonuses and shoe sponsorship contracts. The very best invest 100,000 dollars – I'll then build you a designer drug that can't be detected."

"Designer drugs are composed of several different chemicals that trigger the desired reaction. At the end of the chain I change one or two molecules in such a way that the entire structure is undetectable for the doping testers."

"What's happening now is laughable. It's a token. They should save their money – or give it to me. I'll give it to the orphans of Mexico! There will be doping for as long as there is commercial sports, performance-related shoe contracts and television."

"Peak performances without doping are a fairytale, my friend."

"I believe we should authorize the use of epo, IGF and testosterone, as well as adrenaline and epitestosterone – substances that the body produces itself. Simply for pragmatic reasons, because it is impossible to detect them, and also because of the fairness aspect."

"Track and field, swimming, cross-country skiing and cycling can no longer be saved. Golf? Not clean either. Soccer? Soccer players come to me and say they have to be able to run up and down the touchline without becoming tired, and they have to play every three days. Basketball players take fat burners – amphetamines, ephedrin. Baseball? Haha. Steroids in pre-season, amphetamines during the games. Even archers take downers so that their arm remains steady. Everyone dopes."

[stretchedout]

its called spot fixing . manny knew knock down in 3rd knockout in 6th round just watch 1st knockdown in slow motion ... i m boxing fan but after this bye bye to boxing ..they should change WBO to WBE

One more ignorant pac-stain gone, good job.

Let me guess..... now you're a religion fan, and a politics fan, right ?

BB, have fun, dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out