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What's next for Freddy Roach? Did he just get exposed?!?!

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  • #11
    Branching out to too many fighters could be one reason. Freddy seems as lost as Khan tonight.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View Post
      there is a cure for weak chin its called defense & boxing instead of wild offensive brawling.

      You can use the entire ring & actually box & move. Use your height, your reach, use your long jab. Boxing artistry. Freddie Roach wouldnt know how considering he is a face first brawler. If khan wants to actually learn how to box he needs to hire emmanuel steward who is perfect for tall fighters with great reach & a weak chin.
      Roach doesn't teach defense. His fighters get hit a lot

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      • #13
        Originally posted by devildg View Post
        Pac got exposed? No. Khan got exposed? Yes.

        did Roach tell his fighter not to trade hooks. IMO the signs in the Maidana fight were there, Maidana would counter with a right hook and in the later stages of that fight had Khan RUNNING.

        This time when he would turn Garcia to his left, he countered.

        More like stupidity on Khan's part and lousy Freddy inability to hammer down meaningful instructions to his fighter.

        Freddie needs to call it quits.
        pac got exposed 3 times against a lil known Mexican fighter, JMM. And though it was a close fight, Bradley used JMM's style to give pac troubles. How come pac can run a train on all these guys but then can't ko a guy coming up 7 lbs in weight? When he was running trains on every fighter before that except for one guy.

        Linares lost recently too with the exact same style as khan ala pac. it's the same style throw vollys of punches it's so basic!

        The only guy yet to be exposed, is Chavez Jr. which might come up with Martinez.

        Roach's style is the same with every fighter and he doesn't see that he is the guy doing the same mistake over and over again.

        And when they are forced to change it up khan should have thrown a R hook not a Right uppercut from a distance... smh. I'm an amateur fighter and know that **** bro! Roach teaches no basic defensive fundies, or abbreviated combinations to counter adjustments the other fighter was doing. man I knew khan should have thrown the right hook not right uppercut.... but who's his coach. Roach.... smh. Dude is basic math.

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        • #14
          A .45 slug to the temple!

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          • #15
            ive always said roach was overrated.....dude cant game plan for **** against counter punchers. and those who are saying pac didnt get exposed dream on because a 40 yr lw did it not too long ago.....roach is a damn joke!!!!!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View Post
              there is a cure for weak chin its called defense & boxing instead of wild offensive brawling.

              You can use the entire ring & actually box & move. Use your height, your reach, use your long jab. Boxing artistry. Freddie Roach wouldnt know how considering he is a face first brawler. If khan wants to actually learn how to box he needs to hire emmanuel steward who is perfect for tall fighters with great reach & a weak chin.
              yuuuuuuuuuuuup! flurries up the middle?!!? when the other guy is always stepping to his left and countering with a huge left hook lol!

              Khan, no feints, no R hooks and every time he threw his right hand his head was straight up in the air.... smh. those are all trained faults. Can't Blame Khan when Roach can't see the mistake. (which he claims to look for in other fighters... why can't he see it in his own fighters????)

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Dudley View Post
                pac got exposed 3 times against a lil known Mexican fighter, JMM. And though it was a close fight, Bradley used JMM's style to give pac troubles. How come pac can run a train on all these guys but then can't ko a guy coming up 7 lbs in weight? When he was running trains on every fighter before that except for one guy.
                why does it have to be that pac got "exposed" when simply he had tough fights against those three guys (minus the bradley fight that was a clear win)? That's like saying Ali was "exposed" against Frazier or something silly like that.

                I think it's quite clear a 34 year old Pacquiao is past the point of being exposed.

                Exposed is a term used for guys that have been protected or whatever and finally step up, not hall of fame fighters that have risen to the occasional multiple times.

                It seems on NSB this term is tossed around any time a guy has a tough fight or loses or whatever. "Vitali was exposed by chisora he'll lose to haye!" really? smh.

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                • #18
                  Khan is just a stupid fighter.
                  He hasn't learned ***** from the Prescott and Maidana fights.

                  Khan could have won this fight so easily.
                  But instead of boxing smart and being patient.........Khan does what he always does.

                  Over aggressive.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by THE ИATAS View Post
                    why does it have to be that pac got "exposed" when simply he had tough fights against those three guys (minus the bradley fight that was a clear win)? That's like saying Ali was "exposed" against Frazier or something silly like that.

                    I think it's quite clear a 34 year old Pacquiao is past the point of being exposed.

                    Exposed is a term used for guys that have been protected or whatever and finally step up, not hall of fame fighters that have risen to the occasional multiple times.

                    It seems on NSB this term is tossed around any time a guy has a tough fight or loses or whatever. "Vitali was exposed by chisora he'll lose to haye!" really? smh.
                    whats the problem with saying pac got exposed??? is that not what happened? anytime you fight a fight a fighter three times when you have the speed, power,weight, youth advantage and you still lose you got exposed. pac is one dimentional just like all of freddie roach's fighers. jmm was 40yrs old for crying out loud!!!!!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by THE ИATAS View Post
                      why does it have to be that pac got "exposed" when simply he had tough fights against those three guys (minus the bradley fight that was a clear win)? That's like saying Ali was "exposed" against Frazier or something silly like that.

                      I think it's quite clear a 34 year old Pacquiao is past the point of being exposed.

                      Exposed is a term used for guys that have been protected or whatever and finally step up, not hall of fame fighters that have risen to the occasional multiple times.

                      It seems on NSB this term is tossed around any time a guy has a tough fight or loses or whatever. "Vitali was exposed by chisora he'll lose to haye!" really? smh.
                      Exposed might be a heavy term true. But the fact that Roach has a style of teaching that everyone has caught onto. Volly up the middle offense and poor defense.

                      Sound like anyone familiar? JMM used good footwork and countered now that you think about it, every fighter that is a counter puncher gives Raoch's boxers fits.

                      I guess i was so heavy on pac because this guy was "killing" people then he fights jmm and loses and then fights Bradley and losses bradley was checking that straight left all night and giving manny angles manny had little to nothing. so i would say he's been figured out he's been exposed for lack of effective versatility. he fights the same every time and when people begin to see that, people adjust. thus being exposed imo. it's a lil harsh in lingo but i feel the point is accurate.

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