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Did Hank Armstrong ever go up against a great boxer?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostNah, you're just ignoring the facts provided and avoiding questions. So I'll ask one more time, who has Floyd or Marquez fought who resembled a fighter like Armstrong.
Floyd had his chance to fight a prime Margarito but ducked and opted for Baldomir. But judging by watching their films side by side, its clear that Floyd is leagues better in every way than Armstrong.
JMM has beaten Katsidis, Juan Diaz and Pacquiao 3x. All those guys applied pressure in different ways and Marquez dismantled them.
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Originally posted by Toney Loc View PostI got Barney Ross and I addressed it. Ross was about as slick as a cheese grater.
Floyd had his chance to fight a prime Margarito but ducked and opted for Baldomir. But judging by watching their films side by side, its clear that Floyd is leagues better in every way than Armstrong.
JMM has beaten Katsidis, Juan Diaz and Pacquiao 3x. All those guys applied pressure in different ways and Marquez dismantled them.
armstrong would knock marquez out
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Originally posted by Toney Loc View PostPacquiao has done it. The sport is being run the same way as it always has.
Promoters like to make sure their guys keep winning so they match em' proper to make sure they will most likely win.
Look at Floyd, lol. He becomes WW champ by picking Baldomir. As if that was the best WW at the time. Half of this stuff is politics, the other half is just greed.
Armstrong had to fight the top ten contenders of his day ie. put each and every ranking bodies top ten together and all the paper champs, from WBC and WBA to IBF and WBO and that's what he had to get through just to get his shot at the main title holder.
There is a huge difference between lineal now, and lineal then. The only comparable possibility is Undisputed champ. That would get closer to equaling what took place to get to the top and become champ 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago.
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Originally posted by Toney Loc View PostI got Barney Ross and I addressed it. Ross was about as slick as a cheese grater.
Floyd had his chance to fight a prime Margarito but ducked and opted for Baldomir. But judging by watching their films side by side, its clear that Floyd is leagues better in every way than Armstrong.
JMM has beaten Katsidis, Juan Diaz and Pacquiao 3x. All those guys applied pressure in different ways and Marquez dismantled them.
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I'm still lost as to why this guy is calling Marquez a great, slick boxer but Barney Ross is as slick as a cheese grater....
Have I been watching someone else all these years?
Having I also been thinking it was someone else that was being referred to as a defensive master with an educated left jab, in reference to Ross, who could outslick Canzoneri?
If you use Marquez as a measuring stick for being a great boxer, Ross more than meets your expectations. In fact, Ross surpasses them hugely in that category.
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Originally posted by Toney Loc View PostYou just described a prime Antonio Margarito.
Still not seeing any facts. Just a lot of butthurt and excuses. Where are Armstrongs slick boxing opponents?
I stand by my prediction. Floyd absolutely destroys this clown.
And I already told you Midget Wolgast was slick. Not my problem you have no idea who he is.
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Originally posted by Toney Loc View PostI got Barney Ross and I addressed it. Ross was about as slick as a cheese grater.
Floyd had his chance to fight a prime Margarito but ducked and opted for Baldomir. But judging by watching their films side by side, its clear that Floyd is leagues better in every way than Armstrong.
JMM has beaten Katsidis, Juan Diaz and Pacquiao 3x. All those guys applied pressure in different ways and Marquez dismantled them.
Evidently, you know nothing of Barney Ross.
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Originally posted by Toney Loc View PostYou just described a prime Antonio Margarito.
Still not seeing any facts. Just a lot of butthurt and excuses. Where are Armstrongs slick boxing opponents?
I stand by my prediction. Floyd absolutely destroys this clown.
Again, which one's should he have fought?
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Armstrong fought some of the best. Sugar Ray Robinson, Sammy Angott, Benny Bass, Chalky Wright, Fritie Zivic, Petey Sarron, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Lew Jenkins, Barney Ross, Erico Venturi, Leo Rodak, Ernie Roderick, Varias Milling, Tippy Larkin, Lew Massey, Pedro Montanez, Ceferino Garcia, Al Bummy Davis, Baby Arizmendi, Young Rodolfo Casanova, Davey Day, Lew Feldman, Willie Joyce, Frankie Klick, Juan Zurita, Mike Belloise and Midget Wolgast. All these fighters were either World Champions or were rated #1 at one time or another.
Of Armstrong's 181 fights, 109 were against fighters that were rated in the top 10 at one time or another, and 46 of them were either a World Champion or rated #1 at one time or another.
Both Larkin and Joyce were Great Slick pure boxers, as were many of the others.Last edited by hhascup; 04-06-2012, 11:07 AM.
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