If old Vitali beat Haye in 2013 would the Klitschko haters give him credit?

[IMDAZED]

Maybe if he had started boxing sooner, or if he hadn't quit against Byrd, or if he hadn't had those kickboxing injuries...

But like I said before, Haye and his fangirls saying Vitali fought "nobodies" is like a kid with a "D" average calling a kid with a "C" average a dummy, or a man who is 60 pounds overweight calling a man who is 30 pounds overweight a "fatty".

If they believe Haye to be an elite fighter, then they should give the old man credit if he wins.

Yeah, if he hadn't quit against Byrd, blah blah. Bottom line, regardless of what you say about Haye, doesn't change anything for Vitali. Not an elite fighter, not even the real champ in his division. He's just another contender who will retire with Chris Arreola as his best win. End of story.

[Joeyzagz]

I won't answer the question, but I believe Wlad is in Vitali's ear advising him to avoid Haye.Wlad knows first hand just how good Haye is.

-Wlad got honestly rocked in the 12th round
-Wlad was outlanded in power shots
-Wlad never was able to catch Haye cleanly or put him on the canvas(from a punch)

Basically, Haye is a faster version of Chris Byrd with Ko power. A nightmare scenario for an aging Vitali.

[FrankieBruno]

I won't answer the question, but I believe Wlad is in Vitali's ear advising him to avoid Haye.Wlad knows first hand just how good Haye is.

-Wlad got honestly rocked in the 12th round
-Wlad was outlanded in power shots
-Wlad never was able to catch Haye cleanly or put him on the canvas(from a punch)

Basically, Haye is a faster version of Chris Byrd with Ko power. A nightmare scenario for an aging Vitali.

spot on.........

[Jam Jars]

Giving the fans the fight they want is always a + on any resume.

[Simurgh]

spot on.........

So Haye is basically better than 95% opponents lennox fought... (byrd with power and speed)

great! more credit to klitschko for beating him.

[Joeyzagz]

So Haye is basically better than 95% opponents lennox fought... (byrd with power and speed)

great! more credit to klitschko for beating him.

Speed, Power, but only 4 fights at Heavyweight. Wlad caught a green Haye at just the right time.

Itd be like Margarito taking credit for a win over Sergio Martinez

[Prince_Pugilist]

Fact is, Haye is the 3rd best heavy on the planet in almost every department. Like him or not. Vitali beats him, he signs out on a high and can be considered better than Wlad.

[Skittlez]

Vitali needs Haye.

Haye will be the best fighter he ever beat and the 2nd best fighter he ever fought.

I love Corrie Sanders (RIP RIP) But let's wake the **** up people, Klittards have vastly over exaggerated his powers and skills. The guy was a pro golfer for God's sake when he hammered Wlad's vagina in.

He was literally training on and off the golf course. He had very good power and a tricky style with lots of agressiveness,but Sanders was a part time boxer full time Golfer/food lover. (RIP to a great man though)

[TysonBomb]

Vitali needs Haye.

Haye will be the best fighter he ever beat and the 2nd best fighter he ever fought.

I love Corrie Sanders (RIP RIP) But let's wake the **** up people, Klittards have vastly over exaggerated his powers and skills. The guy was a pro golfer for God's sake when he hammered Wlad's vagina in.

He was literally training on and off the golf course. He had very good power and a tricky style with lots of agressiveness,but Sanders was a part time boxer full time Golfer/food lover. (RIP to a great man though)

Agreed

Sanders was effectively retired before he shagged Wlad and popped his cherry

Had he fought a younger Sanders who was more committed and focused on boxing then it would've been something else ... but Vitali beat a retired fighter who got up to rape his brother as a 40-1 underdog.

His resume is horribly poor but klittards use his domination of inferior fighters in order to "boost" his fabled "H2H ability."

No real notable fighters in his win column ...

[FrankieBruno]

Vitali can cement his legacy with a win over a Haye, especially if he does what his brother was unable to do and thats KO or damage Haye.

Wlad didnt come to fight Haye, he came to throw a jab and avoid fighting by illegal leaning.

The truth of the matter if Wlad knows Vitali wont beat Haye and he also knows he'll then have to fight Haye again and this time he will not get away with his illegal leaning tactics