Is this a fact or opinion regarding manny pacquaio?

[thiago]

that ***** got quite real quick innit...

[Pullcounter]

go look at the fact.

cotto coming off a win.

clottey coming off a sd loss.

marg coming off a win.

hatton coming off a win.

now go cry some more

[loui_ludwig]

Gatti was tailor made for Floyd.
Baldomir was tailor made for Floyd.
Hatton was tailor made for Floyd.
JMM was tailor made for Floyd, tailor made cuz JMM moved up 2 divisions.
Mosley was tailor made for Floyd, almost 2 months of training with Berto before fight was cancelled and 2 months of training against Floyd. Almost 4 months of training by Mosley with a year of inactivity, tailor made for Floyd.

[Sweet Jesus]

Have all 4 of pacquaios recent opponents been coming off a tremendous career changing beatdown coming into the manny pacquaio? Miguel Cotto got finished by Margarito than had a brutal war with clottey, clottey had a hard battle with judah than a total war with miguel cotto, margarito was viciously picked off by mosley than inactive for more than a year before fighting some guy I never heard of, Ricky Hatton got annihilated by Mayweather and came back and beat featherfisted paulie malignaggi. Is this fact or opinion?

That would be a fact...

[pactardsowhat]

Pacquiao is the greatest of all time

Pacquiao is once a very poor, ghetto boy in the slum of the Philippines. How can anybody in America expect him to be where he is right now? He's life is transparent, scrutinized, criticized, demoralized, damaged, etc. in the Philippines because of his bad habits of gambling and womanizing before plus the dirty, mafia-run politics of the Philippines. If he's not a gifted and once-in-a-hundred years boxing he'll not survive the trials he'd been through. He has been cheated and abused by black Murrad and other promoters and made him sleep in the couch while the promoters sleep in the bedrooms. If he's not good he'll not stand the criticism of racial America, especially against the black people who thought only black boxers are good but nobody among them survived the lower weights where the Mexicans dominate. Genetically, the black people are big therefore they only fight in the higher weights but even then where are they now in the heavy weight division? Man, give credit to where it's due. Give respect to a third world, hardworking fighter who's uneducated and even doesn't speak English good. Really, ask yourself how many black promoters do you think will jump into Pacwagon if he will get out of Top rank if they know he's fake. Regarding Mosley as old, not prime and washed up. How about BHop, he's 40 but nobody says he's old because he just defeated younger champions like Pavlik and ODH. It depends what kind of "old" boxer you're talking about. Also consider Marquez, he's still the champion after fights with Pacquiao, so he's not an old bum contrary to many pachaters believe. Mosley is still fighting and never been knock out or even just knock down. He must be slowing down but he's still the top welterweight and a champion. Why you all pachaters saying Pacman always fight not prime, washed out, old fighters when these dudes are still on the pound for pound lists or top 10 contenders? These people got no logic but inhumanely jealous and racists. Who are the welterweights out there that are champions and popular despite the age? Berto? Bradley? Alexander? If they are really good why can't they get a fight with Mosley or Mayweather? It's because the same people who hates and jealous of Pacquiao are the same people who will not fight these "young, sleek, inner-city black dudes" because they can't pay the bills. Bigotry and purely racists!!!!I thought before black people are the defenders of other colored people against white oppressors but when you happen to get the better deal, they'll the worst enemies you've ever meet, worst than white supremacists.

[thiago]

Pacquiao is once a very poor, ghetto boy in the slum of the Philippines. How can anybody in America expect him to be where he is right now? He's life is transparent, scrutinized, criticized, demoralized, damaged, etc. in the Philippines because of his bad habits of gambling and womanizing before plus the dirty, mafia-run politics of the Philippines. If he's not a gifted and once-in-a-hundred years boxing he'll not survive the trials he'd been through. He has been cheated and abused by black Murrad and other promoters and made him sleep in the couch while the promoters sleep in the bedrooms. If he's not good he'll not stand the criticism of racial America, especially against the black people who thought only black boxers are good but nobody among them survived the lower weights where the Mexicans dominate. Genetically, the black people are big therefore they only fight in the higher weights but even then where are they now in the heavy weight division? Man, give credit to where it's due. Give respect to a third world, hardworking fighter who's uneducated and even doesn't speak English good. Really, ask yourself how many black promoters do you think will jump into Pacwagon if he will get out of Top rank if they know he's fake. Regarding Mosley as old, not prime and washed up. How about BHop, he's 40 but nobody says he's old because he just defeated younger champions like Pavlik and ODH. It depends what kind of "old" boxer you're talking about. Also consider Marquez, he's still the champion after fights with Pacquiao, so he's not an old bum contrary to many pachaters believe. Mosley is still fighting and never been knock out or even just knock down. He must be slowing down but he's still the top welterweight and a champion. Why you all pachaters saying Pacman always fight not prime, washed out, old fighters when these dudes are still on the pound for pound lists or top 10 contenders? These people got no logic but inhumanely jealous and racists. Who are the welterweights out there that are champions and popular despite the age? Berto? Bradley? Alexander? If they are really good why can't they get a fight with Mosley or Mayweather? It's because the same people who hates and jealous of Pacquiao are the same people who will not fight these "young, sleek, inner-city black dudes" because they can't pay the bills. Bigotry and purely racists!!!!I thought before black people are the defenders of other colored people against white oppressors but when you happen to get the better deal, they'll the worst enemies you've ever meet, worst than white supremacists.

i'm sorry but this isnt an english exam nobodies wasting their time reading that essay, basically your just turning this thread into some kind of race baiting thing, ish off and keep it the way it is

[stormfroe]

Take it like this, say there is a 4 year old child having the time of his life, enjoying play time, having friends and everything. Then 1 day on his 5th birthday that child gets abused, he gets beaten down by his father. Does the child recover from that? Most of the time no, they don't. They spend their lives thinking about that one day. It's very hard to get over because you lost your innocence. You lost your joy in life.

this happened to you when you were 4 years old?

[stormfroe]

Have all 4 of pacquaios recent opponents been coming off a tremendous career changing beatdown coming into the manny pacquaio? Miguel Cotto got finished by Margarito than had a brutal war with clottey, clottey had a hard battle with judah than a total war with miguel cotto, margarito was viciously picked off by mosley than inactive for more than a year before fighting some guy I never heard of, Ricky Hatton got annihilated by Mayweather and came back and beat featherfisted paulie malignaggi. Is this fact or opinion?

what you got there is an opinion, a revealing one at that. not everyone is like you, that crumbles down and self destruct everytime you fail at something.

[AFighter4U]

Take it like this, say there is a 4 year old child having the time of his life, enjoying play time, having friends and everything. Then 1 day on his 5th birthday that child gets abused, he gets beaten down by his father. Does the child recover from that? Most of the time no, they don't. They spend their lives thinking about that one day. It's very hard to get over because you lost your innocence. You lost your joy in life.

Now look at it in Cotto's case. He got beaten to the point where his children and his wife saw, he got beaten up to the point where he quit. How does one recover from that kind of a beating? Especially if you're a boxer and constantly people will ask you about that fight, and they'll show it everywhere, on the 24/7s, the countdowns, everywhere. You will never get over that.

It's one thing to lose a fight, it's another to get beaten down to the point where you quit. Whether you believe it or not, that fight with Margarito changed Cotto, he lost his joy.

Hatton was tailor made for Pacquiao.
Clottey never had the heart of a champion.
Margarito was tailor made for Pacquiao.

There's a huge difference from getting knocked out, than there is beaten on. When you get knocked out, well you got caught it happens. When you get beaten on and you can't do anything about it. It will kill your confidence. It will kill your joy. Say what you will but Cotto will never recover from that lost to Margarito. Ever.

Then Pac must be one tough 4 year old mofo.

He's been beaten three times already, and based on your point of view should NEVER have recovered and should by all counts not be doing what he's doing now.

[cixthree]

Haha 41-0 and lineal champ has no business at 140

Damn, what about the other stuff he said?