Manny Pacquiao dropped to Number 7 on ESPN P4P list!!

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1998

1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Felix Trinidad
5. Mark Johnson
6. Shane Mosley
7. Ricardo Lopez
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
9. Naseem Hamed
10. Johnny Tapia

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1998

1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Felix Trinidad
5. Mark Johnson
6. Shane Mosley
7. Ricardo Lopez
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
9. Naseem Hamed
10. Johnny Tapia

Yes...and we need to kick Floyd out for...Fabrice Tiozzo

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Tell me...name the fighters Tiozzo had beaten that would make him a pound for pounder? You desperate ****

mike mccallum. floyd's never beaten anyone that good in his career. how does a fighter become p4p according to you? tiozzo beat the #2 guy in one division then moved up and beat the #1 guy. that's not good enough to be p4p over floyd who had 2 title fights at the time? you are the spin master.

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Yes...and we need to kick Floyd out for...Fabrice Tiozzo

you are making my point for me. OH MY GOD a foreigner over floyd mayweather? impossible! tiozzo had the much better resume. why shouldn't he be above him? because you don't know who he is? why should the list be calibrated to your ignorance?

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mike mccallum. floyd's never beaten anyone that good in his career. how does a fighter become p4p according to you? tiozzo beat the #2 guy in one division then moved up and beat the #1 guy. that's not good enough to be p4p over floyd who had 2 title fights at the time? you are the spin master.

Mike McCallum? Yeah well beating up a faded 40 year old is pretty impressive. Amazing that Tiozzo's pound for pound pedigree wasn't noticed by umm...anyone. Not even in France. The ****outtahere

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You guys going at it.

also to save you time hamed should have been ranked above floyd. hamed had 11 defenses, 5 top ten wins including over the #1, and beat the wbo, wba, and ibf champs.

Naseem should have been rated higher. True

Yeah, he was also ranked #9 p4p already you dumb ****. You want them to switch places or something?

Lol, you guys are funny, def good entertainment though.

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Mike McCallum? Yeah well beating up a faded 40 year old is pretty impressive. Amazing that Tiozzo's pound for pound pedigree wasn't noticed by umm...anyone. Not even in France. The ****outtahere

isn't a faded mccallum better than a faded hernandez? tiozzo still beat the #2 at light heavy then moved up to cruiser and beat the #1. that is clearly much better than floyd's resume at the time. your counter argument is that he was from france so he doesn't deserve to be on the list? gonna have to say i won that one.

anyway since you are stuck in floyd defender mode i'm just gonna move on to how did floyd get from #8 to #2 after beating carlos alberto ramon rios, justin juuko and carlos gerena. any thoughts? surely he wasn't the beneficiary of hype right? he completely earned that ranking right? SKILLS! PAY ATTENTION TO HIS SKILLS!

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isn't a faded mccallum better than a faded hernandez? tiozzo still beat the #2 at light heavy then moved up to cruiser and beat the #1. that is clearly much better than floyd's resume at the time. your counter argument is that he was from france so he doesn't deserve to be on the list? gonna have to say i won that one.

anyway since you are stuck in floyd defender mode i'm just gonna move on to how did floyd get from #8 to #2 after beating carlos alberto ramon rios, justin juuko and carlos gerena. any thoughts? surely he wasn't the beneficiary of hype right? he completely earned that ranking right? SKILLS! PAY ATTENTION TO HIS SKILLS!

Do you realize how deluded you've become? You are actually campaigning that FABRICE TIOZZO should have been a pound for pounder in 1998. Were you following the sport at all then? Because you sound dumb as **** right now . And no, decisioning a FADED Mike McCallum isn't quite the same as stopping a Genaro Hernandez who was ranked #17 in the Ring end of Year Top 100 list entering 1998. Get a ****ing grip.

And LOL @ you "moving on" because your lame ass argument was slapped down. Before you pull something else out of your ass first try removing your head from it.

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Do you realize how deluded you've become? You are actually campaigning that FABRICE TIOZZO should have been a pound for pounder in 1998. Were you following the sport at all then? Because you sound dumb as **** right now . And no, decisioning a FADED Mike McCallum isn't quite the same as stopping a Genaro Hernandez who was ranked #17 in the Ring end of Year pound for list in 1998. Get a ****ing grip.

yeah mcallum was old but he was still champ and just beat harding. hernandez only notable win was over 40 year old nelson and he retired from injuries after the floyd fight. don't see how he's so great, certainly not in mccallum's class. tiozzo beat the #2 guy at light heavy and the #1 guy at cruiser. can you imagine if someone did that today? imagine if someone beat hopkins then moved up to beat hernandez. they wouldn't be p4p? you are the deluded one.

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yeah mcallum was old but he was still champ and just beat harding. hernandez only notable win was over 40 year old nelson and he retired from injuries after the floyd fight. don't see how he's so great, certainly not in mccallum's class. tiozzo beat the #2 guy at light heavy and the #1 guy at cruiser. can you imagine if someone did that today? imagine if someone beat hopkins then moved up to beat hernandez. they wouldn't be p4p? you are the deluded one.

Not even AB Promotions in France had Fabrice Tiozzo as a pound for pounder. Or even top 50. Yet your argument has boiled down to this:

Fabrice Tiozzo was a pound for pounder.