[NEWS] Explosion at Boston Marathon [LIVE]

[2501]

three people died unfairly many lost their limbs and won't be able to walk again, that's not fair, why should he be treated fairly

Because we have due process in our country. If I understand correctly, he's a naturalized American citizen. He has the right to a fair trial despite of what he did. This is what people don't understand. If we allow our government to operate outside of its own constitutional laws, it won't stop at just people who commit these horrible acts. This could lead to abusive of power. Are you really willing to give up your rights as an American citizen? Are you truly saying that you trust the government to not overstep their bounds?

[squealpiggy]

Because we have due process in our country. If I understand correctly, he's a naturalized American citizen. He has the right to a fair trial despite of what he did. This is what people don't understand. If we allow our government to operate outside of its own constitutional laws, it won't stop at just people who commit these horrible acts. This could lead to abusive of power. Are you really willing to give up your rights as an American citizen? Are you truly saying that you trust the government to not overstep their bounds?

He is legally innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. There's no "what he did" from a legal standpoint.

[Canelo Phresh]

Because the constitution guarantees them the right to equality before the law? Should killers and rapists be treated fairly, both are horrible crimes? A serial killer can kill 50 people and will get a "fair shake", but this guy wont.

Here's the thing until they are tried, convicted, and found guilty in a fair trial we do NOT know if they're guilty. Investigators make mistakes with evidence all the time. Furthermore a lack of due process opens the door for outright corruption and abuse

ndaa already negates several rights. Indefinite detention being one of them.

[Da Machine]

He's already admitted it... IMO, you use a bomb as an admitted radical to kill people, US citizen or not, then you are a terrorist.

[2501]

He's already admitted it... IMO, you use a bomb as an admitted radical to kill people, US citizen or not, then you are a terrorist.

And a trial occurs after to determine the appropriate and fair punishment. It boggles my mind that people do not understand the importance of due process in a supposed "advanced" and "civilized" country. Should I start naming the other countries which don't believe in such process?

[spyvsspy]

He should be treated no different than Timothy McVeigh. I have a feeling that the media is going to cram this down our throats to see if Americans are willing to give up ther rights to feel a little "safer".

[squealpiggy]

He's already admitted it... IMO, you use a bomb as an admitted radical to kill people, US citizen or not, then you are a terrorist.

And his confession will be entered into evidence along with photographs, video, eyewitness testimony, circumstantial evidence taken from his home and his family's homes from their computers and documents, physical evidence such as devices found at the scene and about his person, officer testimony and others and presented as a case before a jury, to which his lawyer will mount a defense to either mitigate his sentence or deny involvement.

That's how it works. Until then he's considered to be innocent under the law.

[New England]

And his confession will be entered into evidence along with photographs, video, eyewitness testimony, circumstantial evidence taken from his home and his family's homes from their computers and documents, physical evidence such as devices found at the scene and about his person, officer testimony and others and presented as a case before a jury, to which his lawyer will mount a defense to either mitigate his sentence or deny involvement.

That's how it works. Until then he's considered to be innocent under the law.

whatever information they're getting from him now won't be used in court (a confession, names, dates, etc.)

he's more like a prisoner of war than a person suspected of a crime at this stage. they're interrogating him at this stage with the intent of getting information that they won't use in his trial.


if they want to use the line of questioning to support their case against him they'll have to read him his miranda rights, and allow him legal council. they certainly don't need it, though, and that's why he's being questioned without being allowed council. they're "allowed" to go that rout, or that rout is legal, because he's classified as a different type of criminal (a terrorist, for lack of a technical term.)

basically, if you're a threat to the country or a terrorist, the way these two were/are considered to be, you can be held without the regular rights that you'd need to give to a civilian.

[2501]

whatever information they're getting from him now won't be used in court (a confession, names, dates, etc.)

he's more like a prisoner of war than a person suspected of a crime at this stage. they're interrogating him at this stage with the intent of getting information that they won't use in his trial.


if they want to use the line of questioning to support their case against him they'll have to read him his miranda rights, and allow him legal council. they certainly don't need it, though, and that's why he's being questioned without being allowed council. they're "allowed" to go that rout, or that rout is legal, because he's classified as a different type of criminal (a terrorist, for lack of a technical term.)

basically, if you're a threat to the country or a terrorist, the way these two were/are considered to be, you can be held without the regular rights that you'd need to give to a civilian.

And that's when it gets dangerous. Further down the line, what if the line that separates civilian from "enemy combatant" gets more and more blurred by the government? It seems like an implausible situation, but how could it not happen if it happens in other countries? The further apathetic this country becomes, the easier it is for the government to abuse power on behalf of special interest. No citizen should invest full confidence in their authorities. This is something our forefathers have repeated time and time again.

[deanrw]

This was a nice gesture. Makes me proud to be Nova Scotian

http://www.boston.com/whitecoatnotes...=all#aComments

Returning a 96-year-old favor, Nova Scotia sends donation to Mass. General

The devastation was incredible. About 2,000 people were killed and thousands more injured when a munitions ship exploded in the harbor of Halifax, Nova Scotia. That was 96 years ago. Boston responded then, sending doctors and others to help the devastated city. In thanks, each year, Nova Scotia sends a Christmas tree to stand in the Boston Common.
After Boston was rocked by double blasts at the Marathon last week, the province responded with aid, sending a donation of $50,000 to Massachusetts General Hospital’s pediatric palliative care program.
“While there is a border and a number of miles between us, we share a common heritage and ancestors,” Premier Darrell Dexter wrote in a note to the hospital. “Massachusetts was there for Nova Scotia 96 years ago during the tragedy of the Halifax Explosion, and many times since then. Our hearts and minds are with the people of Boston now and in the future.”
The hospital, which treated at least 39 people injured in the attack, also was expecting a special delivery Tuesday afternoon: a BBQ meal flown in from Texas. Mass. General physicians sent pizza to the emergency department at Hillcrest Baptist Medical Center in Waco, where people injured last week in the massive fertilizer plant explosion in the town of West, Texas, were being treated.
Caregivers at Hillcrest wanted to respond in kind. A meal for 100 people was expected to arrive at the Mass. General emergency department at about 12:30 p.m., a spokeswoman said.
Chelsea Conaboy can be reached at cconaboy@boston.com. Follow her on Twitter @cconaboy.