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james toney vs andre ward
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For people to vote overwhelmingly against Andre Ward when he beat everybody of note at 168lbs and most of the time by a large margin is absurd IMO. People are even demanding Ward move up to 175lbs because he is so dominating at 168lbs.
Ward has a much, much deeper resumé at 168lbs than James Toney and has won by wider margins. I don't know why people would favor Toney.
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Lmao wait. Prime?
Hahahaha. What a mockery. Ward ain't ****.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View Postwth are these fight threads? first there was ggg v hagler and now this?
ward's got one of the best ever resume at 168, and is clearly the best SMW of his era. it's not unreasonable to compare him to a middleweight / SMW like toney, who was beatable.
tony's style makes him a bit overrated. it's remarkable to see a man with defense and sharp counterpunching like that, but he could be beaten, and he was.
so far, i haven't seen enough offensively for me o think he can beat a fully motivated and in shape toney. maybe he could, but i just don't see it yet. toney's offense would win the rounds.
still, this is 100% a legitimate fight, and only considered a mismatch by european idiots who harbor resentment toward andre ward for pummeling their heroes.
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Originally posted by Humean View PostI'd favour Ward based on speed of movement and that he won't likely be suckered into being too aggressive against Toney. 116-112 Ward.
i tend to doubt that moving and pot shotting would be enough to win the rounds. we'd need to see more from ward that we've seen in the past. i'm not saying it's not there, just that we haven't seen it, and he may very well need it.
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