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Last edited by Daddy T; 05-17-2011, 07:47 AM.
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Originally posted by David Haye View Postare you max schmelling's great grandson or something?? I mean seriously Max Schmelling number 2???????? Ali number 11???? could you possibly explain that? You have liston 8 and foreman 5 which are not bad listings in themselves but ali stopped both of them Liston twice and yet you rank him below them? not even top ten? lol just lol Baer number 7? dear oh dear you been watching that russel Crowe movie or something? Dig up some archive footage of Tommy loughran schooling him and try to stick by that claim
P.S - I'll pay you 1million to change your username.
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Originally posted by SBleeder View PostSam Langford never won the heavyweight crown either, and was certainly not at his best weight at heavyweight. You've got him at #20.
Originally posted by David Haye View Postare you max schmelling's great grandson or something?? I mean seriously Max Schmelling number 2???????? Ali number 11???? could you possibly explain that? You have liston 8 and foreman 5 which are not bad listings in themselves but ali stopped both of them Liston twice and yet you rank him below them? not even top ten? lol just lol Baer number 7? dear oh dear you been watching that russel Crowe movie or something? Dig up some archive footage of Tommy loughran schooling him and try to stick by that claim
Schmelling is the ONLY man to defeat Prime Joe Louis, and the only man to KO Young Stribling in 230 fights. Schmelling had both cunning and punching power and would take almost any heavyweight on their best day... on their own soil!
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Originally posted by JoeyZagz View PostCriteria
* Punching Power
* Wins over Quality opponents
* Quality of Era
* Dominance
* Accomplishment
1. Lennox Lewis
2. Max Schmelling
3. Joe Louis
4. Bob Fitzsimmons
5. George Foreman
6. John L Sullivan
7. Max Baer
8. Sonny Liston
9. Mike Tyson
10. Vitali Klitschko
11. Muhammad Ali
12. Harry Wills
13. Gene Tunney
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jack Dempsey
16. Riddick Bowe
17. Joe Frazier
18. Larry Holmes
19. Jack Johnson
20. Samuel Langford
21. Gentleman Jim Corbett
22. Evander Holyfield
23. Jim Jeffries
24. Oliver Mccall
25. Earnie Shavers
26. David Tua
27. Young Stribling
28. Tommy Morrison
29. Paddy Ryan
30. Frank Bruno
Muhammad Ali - #11???????
According to you, your criteria has:
* Punching Power
* Wins over Quality opponents
* Quality of Era
* Dominance
* Accomplishment
Now You Tell me. Does Ali not satisfy criteria no.2, 3, 4 & 5? As for No.1, Ali still had a decent KO rate which is a direct indication of Punching Power. So how the **** did Ali not feature even in your top 10?
Ron Lyle - where is that guy? u just said u used the aforementioned criteria did u not?
Joe Frazier #17???????? - u sure u didn't confuse the guy with Marvis Frazier? Why is he so low? u mention punching power, quality of opposition, dominance etc. and still Joe's so low?
I could go on and on, but I think its better not to insult an other person's list. I know it hurts. sorry.
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Originally posted by Devroy Jones View PostBoy, You got some list there. I would like to point some gaping holes in your list...............
Muhammad Ali - #11???????
According to you, your criteria has:
* Punching Power
* Wins over Quality opponents
* Quality of Era
* Dominance
* Accomplishment
Now You Tell me. Does Ali not satisfy criteria no.2, 3, 4 & 5? As for No.1, Ali still had a decent KO rate which is a direct indication of Punching Power. So how the **** did Ali not feature even in your top 10?
That honor goes to Foreman who breezed through Ali's two toughest opponents in only 4 rounds.
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Originally posted by JoeyZagz View PostSam Langford beat Harry Wills though, who was arguably the best HW of the 1920's. What great Heavyweight did Archie Moore beat? Moore actually had an opportunity to fight for the crown while Langford was barred.
Who did Ali spark that was better than Prime Joe Louis?
Schmelling is the ONLY man to defeat Prime Joe Louis, and the only man to KO Young Stribling in 230 fights. Schmelling had both cunning and punching power and would take almost any heavyweight on their best day... on their own soil!
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Originally posted by SeattleSeahawksIf you people would stop putting 180 pound white guys like Dempsey,Tunney, and Marciano on the list and stop putting any other fighter who weighed 180 pound on the list you would have a good list. But you darn well that when ever you mention boxing a white guy has to pull Marciano out his ass
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