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    Greece confirms it will not repay IMF loan as its bailout program is due to expire


    ATHENS, Greece - Greece is set to become the first developed nation to not pay its debts to the International Monetary Fund on time, as the country sinks deeper into a financial emergency that has forced it put a nationwide lockdown on money withdrawals.

    Greece owes the IMF about 1.6 billion euros ($1.9 billion) by the end of Tuesday but has run out of money and after five months of talks with creditors, has no prospect of getting new rescue loans.

    Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis, asked whether Greece would meet Tuesday's repayment, replied: "no."

    The European part of Greece's international bailout expires at the end of Tuesday, and with it any possible access to the remaining rescue loans the country needs to pay its debts.

    "The program runs out tonight, at exactly midnight central European time," German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in Berlin. "I know of no solid indications to the contrary."

    The heightened crisis, which peaked over the weekend after Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras called a referendum on creditor proposals for reforms in return for bailout loans, has increased fears the country could very soon fall out of the euro currency bloc.

    If Greece doesn't repay the IMF by the deadline, it will be officially in arrears and will no longer have access to funding from the body until it clears its arrears. This, IMF chief Christine Lagarde told the BBC last week, has "never happened in the case of an advanced economy."

    Straight after the referendum call, in which the government is advocating a "no" vote, Greeks began rushing to ATM machines. The referendum is set for Sunday and the government declared all banks will remain shut for at least a week. Greeks have been limited to cash withdrawals of 60 euros ($67) per day.


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    Puerto Rico's governor has a message for Washington D.C: change the law, we want the right to declare bankruptcy.

    On the brink of default, Governor Alejandro García Padilla demanded that the U.S. government allow Puerto Rico, a commonwealth, access to chapter 9 bankruptcy. That's what Detroit used when it went belly up. At the moment, only cities, towns and other municipalities are able to declare bankruptcy.

    "We cannot allow them to force us to choose between paying for our police, our teachers, our nurses, and paying our debt," Padilla said in a televised announcement Monday night in Spanish. "We have to act now."

    Puerto Rico is running out of time. The island owes $73 billion that it can't pay. Its debt is already junk grade and has one of the lowest possible ratings.

    "Now is the moment for us to call on Washington for concrete action," Padilla said, referring to the need to lobby Washington for change on Chapter 9.

    The governor compared the island's financial situation to Detroit's, but unlike Detroit, Puerto Rico's only option is to settle its debt with its creditors on its own, which would take years.

    Do you guys think Greece have the upper hand in this negotiation?. or Puerto Rico for that matter.

    The last time someone did this was in the 80's when Argentina told the creditors (fuc.k y'all we aint paying!).

  • #2
    It's crazy to think this could happen to a country like Greece. Puerto Rico is also crazy because they are a common wealth, WTF is going on there?

    Maybe Donald Trump can lend them both the money, he has 500 billion dollars, or so he claimed.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
      It's crazy to think this could happen to a country like Greece. Puerto Rico is also crazy because they are a common wealth, WTF is going on there?

      Maybe Donald Trump can lend them both the money, he has 500 billion dollars, or so he claimed.

      Tsipras The Greek PM is being stubborn and threatening that EU might collapse without them.

      Meanwhile Puerto Rico's been in recession since 2006 and need the U.S. help like Detroit. but they can't file for bankruptcy and only the U.S. congress can help them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Amazinger View Post
        Tsipras The Greek PM is being stubborn and threatening that EU might collapse without them.

        Meanwhile Puerto Rico's been in recession since 2006 and need the U.S. help like Detroit. but they can't file for bankruptcy and only the U.S. congress can help them.
        Yea I have been reading about PR. There's no jobs there, and more and more people are moving out.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
          It's crazy to think this could happen to a country like Greece. Puerto Rico is also crazy because they are a common wealth, WTF is going on there?

          Maybe Donald Trump can lend them both the money, he has 500 billion dollars, or so he claimed.
          This is what happens when you have leftist spending... You go broke...

          Detroit
          Puerto Rico
          Greece
          Chicago and illinois will be soon, unless new republican govoner enacts his budget cuts, which I doubt happens because the state leaders are crooks

          The entire United states Government will be like this once we get into the 20+ trillion national debt range

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
            This is what happens when you have leftist spending... You go broke...

            Detroit
            Puerto Rico
            Greece
            Chicago and illinois will be soon, unless new republican govoner enacts his budget cuts, which I doubt happens because the state leaders are crooks

            The entire United states Government will be like this once we get into the 20+ trillion national debt range
            Are you serious. When Clinton left there surplus.Then they disappear after you know who got in power.

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            • #7
              We're screwed.

              Tomorrow a tax of 11% starts on everything, it was 7%.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Amazinger View Post
                Are you serious. When Clinton left there surplus.Then they disappear after you know who got in power.
                I almost wrote about Clinton.... Yes, he was left, but fiscally he leaned right and worked well with the house republicans that gained power in 94..

                That's what made Clinton great,, he was a lefty that realized spending needed to be curbed and entitlements reformed


                Both parties are 2 blame for the deficit.. Both are spenders, they just argue about where to spend it..

                Ideologically the right is about controlled government spending... Now the right wingers may not always act like that, but from a view point of idealogy, that is one of their key principles..

                All you have to do is look at leftist ran governments and you will see a lot bankrupt or severely in debt places..
                My home state of Illinois and chicago are great examples, Greece, Puerto Rico, etc...the tax system won't allow business growth,which stagnants employment, which stagnants the taxes collected, which stagnants government budgets, but the politicians only borrow money and offer more entitlements and spending to keep voters happy and then down the road, the interest on the loans, grows to such a huge chunk of the gdp and budget that it forces government to cut back spending on essentials like infrastructure, schools, etc. Thereby lowering the standard of living, and eventually what you get is a desolate place like what Detroit is now, instead of a booming metropolis...

                You never hear of a government with effective fiscal and budget controls

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                • #9
                  Sila Maria Calderon, former governor of Puerto Rico, f^cked everything up. She took out the military contracts, which were 60% of PRs income. She rejected a 150 year contract, or extention for major factories & exporting companies. Some that even exported food to the US. A couple of years ago they started implementing taxes. Most of the companies left.

                  USA is soon to be next in line with the dollar tanking.

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                  • #10
                    Good, don't pay the IMF. Others should follow.

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