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Golovkin's career may follow Hagler's trajectory: Ducked 4 years then final flourish

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  • #11
    Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
    Hagler was a great fighter and he turned pro at a much younger age than GGG. I don't remember anybody calling him little hagler for not moving up to fight at 168 pounds. I'll bet Hagler thinks very highly of GGG. Hagler was a little younger than GGG is now when he retired.
    super middleweight wasn't a legitimate weight class until he the mid to late 80s.....Chong Pal Park was the lineal champion from 84-88....no one really took the weight class seriously and no stars fought there until After he retired

    The super middleweight division traces its beginning to 1984, when Murray Sutherland defeated Ernie Singletary for the International Boxing Federation version of the title. The World Boxing Association created its version of the super middleweight title when reigning Lineal champion Chong Pal Park defeated Jesus Gallardo in 1987 (Park had been IBF champion before relinquishing the title to fight for the inaugural WBA version). The World Boxing Council crowned its first champion in 1988 when Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Donny Lalonde in a fight that was also for its version of the light heavyweight title.




    In other words, no one took the weight class seriously and all the best fighters were at 160 or 175. Hagler was the middleweight champion during the infancy of the divison. For him to move up and win a title and get credit for it, he would have had to fight at light heavyweight, and with his build, that wasn't gonna happen....He is shorter than GGG and he weighed less and turned pro during the same day way in era....I doubt a svelt Hagler was coming in the ring
    as a light heavyweight the day of the fight like GGG


    Also people wanted Hagler to move up and fight spinks, Qawi and other light heavies during his reign....that's 15 pounds.....people want GGG to move up and in this era its just 8 pounds and he weighs over 168 fight night anyway...2 different scenarios

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    • #12
      Wasn't Hagler bona-fide at the ege of 26?

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      • #13
        Ggg had a big fight on the table for next year against ward. Similar situation with canelo maybe they will fight next year.

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        • #14
          Took Hagler 50 fights to get a title shot and Golovkin looks set to get one for his 36th. Given that's already got a few 7 figure pay days and he only turned pro at 24 he's not doing too badly. Similar, but Hagler was treated worse.

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          • #15
            Hagler beat up on some small guys like Duran maybe GGG can do the same with Floyd?

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            • #16
              Yeah....probably not.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
                Of course it could go the other way when they wait him out until he doesn't have much left, but I think ti will go the other way and he will have a few very high quality fights and performances right at the end after having been avoided for many years.
                Never, ever compare g string to a great fighter like Hagler. If Hagler had an opponent just 8 pounds north of his comfort weight and that opponent would have cemented his claim as a great fighter, Hagler would have jumped on that fight. G string? Not so much
                Last edited by just the facts; 01-08-2016, 01:05 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  christ you are completely biased. Can you imagine if someone unpopular like lara offered floyd a 50-50 split for a fight that would take place in over a year and floyd turned it down... According to your own twisted logic i guess floyd was ducking right. Silly larry doesn't understand business after years and years of defending floyd the businessman
                  how can you compare lara to ward and ggg to mayweather???

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by PBP. View Post
                    Tell me about Hagler's options at 168. Who were the champions in that division when he was active and which of those fights would have sealed his legacy?
                    You just exposed one of the many people here that pretend they know what they're talking about.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                      You just exposed one of the many people here that pretend they know what they're talking about.
                      They forget 168 was not **** in the 80's..hell Leonard had that circus show of an event to win a title there and at 175

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