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  • #11
    lol at Saad Mummad over Roy Jones

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Welsh Jon View Post
      I was bored so I made list:

      1. Ezzard Charles
      2. Gene Tunney
      3. Archie Moore
      4. Sam Langford
      5. Maxie Rosenbloom
      6. Michael Spinks
      7. Harry Greb
      8. Tommy Loughran
      9. Harold Johnson
      10. Bob Foster
      11. Jimmy Bivins
      12. Jack Delaney
      13. Matthew Saad Muhammad
      14. Billy Conn
      15. Roy Jones Jr.

      what do you guys reckon?
      Good list. I think I would replace some names with John Henry Lewis.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
        lol at Saad Mummad over Roy Jones
        What did Jones do at 175 that would justify rating him over MSM? And no, being more recent doesn't count.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
          What did Jones do at 175 that would justify rating him over MSM? And no, being more recent doesn't count.
          MSM's resume

          Wins over

          Conteh x2
          Lopez x2
          Johnson x2

          stopped by Qawi x2 and stopped by Eric Winbush

          Roy Jones resume

          Virgil Hill(already better then anybody MSM beat)
          Reggie Johnson
          Merqui Sosa
          Montell Griffin
          Mike McCallum
          Julio Cesar Gonzalez

          lost maybe 10 rounds total at light heavyweight in his prime.

          Its not close one guy got stopped twice by the best man he ever fought and his best wins are over B class fighter. The other is arguable the most dominant champion ever

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          • #15
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
            MSM's resume

            Wins over

            Conteh x2
            Lopez x2
            Johnson x2

            stopped by Qawi x2 and stopped by Eric Winbush

            Roy Jones resume

            Virgil Hill(already better then anybody MSM beat)
            Reggie Johnson
            Merqui Sosa
            Montell Griffin
            Mike McCallum
            Julio Cesar Gonzalez

            lost maybe 10 rounds total at light heavyweight in his prime.

            Its not close one guy got stopped twice by the best man he ever fought and his best wins are over B class fighter. The other is arguable the most dominant champion ever
            MCCALLUM?! Please tell me youre not serious! Mike was 40 and washed up. Sosa fight got stopped way too early. Saad's resume ****s allover Roy's! Virgil Hill fight was at 178. And no way is Virgil better than Conteh and Johnson, no matter how much I like him. Roy's opposition was mostly subpar compared to Saad's. He fought mostly guys that came from nowhere and disappeared into nowhere afterwards.

            And you forgot to mention Marvin Camel, Lottie Mwale and Murray Sutherland on Saad's resume. Qawi was a very tough matchup for ANYBODY back then, even for Jones he would be gruelling. And MSM was already worn out and faded from all the gruelling battles he had.
            Last edited by Pastrano; 10-14-2011, 08:59 AM.

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            • #16
              LMAO did you really just say John Conteh and Marvin Johnson are better than Virgil Hill that says all I need to know.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                LMAO did you really just say John Conteh and Marvin Johnson are better than Virgil Hill that says all I need to know.
                Marvin Johnson was as good, if not better than Virgil Hill.

                John Conteh was certainly better than anyone RJJ fought, apart from Hill.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Welsh Jon View Post
                  Marvin Johnson was as good, if not better than Virgil Hill.
                  lol you can't make this stuff up

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                  • #19
                    Wasn't Hill 34 at the time of the fight with Jones?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                      MSM's resume

                      Wins over

                      Conteh x2
                      Lopez x2
                      Johnson x2

                      stopped by Qawi x2 and stopped by Eric Winbush

                      Roy Jones resume

                      Virgil Hill(already better then anybody MSM beat)
                      Reggie Johnson
                      Merqui Sosa
                      Montell Griffin
                      Mike McCallum
                      Julio Cesar Gonzalez

                      lost maybe 10 rounds total at light heavyweight in his prime.

                      Its not close one guy got stopped twice by the best man he ever fought and his best wins are over B class fighter. The other is arguable the most dominant champion ever
                      Very clever how how included MSM's losses on their resumes, but neglected showing that Roy lost to Tarver (2x), Johnson, and (technically) Griffith. I believe that is called selective discrimination.

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