Dougie's MASSIVE Mayweather Monday MailbgPosted May. 2, 2010 at 11:22pm
By Doug FischerBuzz up!
YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT
Floyd Mayweather's fans are going to give you a extra big helping a Crow. I can't wait to read the Monday Morning Mailbag. I just didn't think without a jab he could win, and Shane doesn't move his head. He fought just like Senior said " all jittery and s__t". -- Big Swa
I hate to say it but Roger and Floyd Sr. were right about Shane Mosley‘s flaws and quirks. At the post-fight press conference Roger said Mosley “had no jab, and the jab is the key to boxing.” He and Senior are nasty old farts, but they know the sport inside and out and tell it like is.
They were right about Mosley as you were and, oh I don’t know, I’m guessing maybe 90 percent of my peers in the media.
As for the wrath of Mayweather’s fans, it comes with the territory. Thus far, it hasn’t been as bad as I expected, and even if it was, I can handle it. As I’ve said before Mayweather fans aren’t the legion that De La Hoya, Tyson, Lewis, and Jones Jr. fans were and over the past 10-15 years I’ve had to hear it from them when I picked their opponents to beat them in big fights.
For the record I had Vargas over De La Hoya and Rahman over Lewis in the rematch, and man, did their fans go off on me when their guy won. I never picked against Jones in a big fight, not until recently anyway, but his fans were still mad at me because I didn‘t “admit” that he was the G.O.A.T. (sound familiar?). And Tyson fans went nuts (and I mean that quite literally -- Zab Judah was one of his many faithful who actually threatened to kick my ass among other things) any time I suggested he needed to hang ’em up or picked someone to beat him (as I did in the Danny Williams fight).
Mayweather’s fans aren’t that bad. They’re just REALLY irritating. Like this guy…
GREAT CALL
Hey dude great call on your prediction on the Mayweather fight last night. You really nailed this one!- Juan
Thanks a lot, a__hole.
HE'S THE BEST, UGH!
Sorry Dougie,
I bet you're getting hammered by know-it-all/know-nothing Floyd fans. I hate him so much but... he's the best. After what I just saw... he kills PacMan. He's Barry Bonds without the ‘roids -- the best, I dislike him, and I wish he'd go away. Final props: he stood and fought. I can't believe it. He's retiring people.
On to next week: Who, if anyone, could have more to complain about Antonio Margarito than Kermit Cintron? The guy is fighting in what will be a great scrap. He should only have one ‘L’ on his record (to Sergio Martinez, who is p4p top 7). This fight takes place down the street from me, and I am “meh” about it. Any chance you'll be there? I'd love to finally meet you.
Paul Williams by UD. I haven't seen much power lately from Cintron and Williams throws more than Alfredo Angulo. -- Anthony
I agree with your Williams-Cintron prediction, and I partially agree with your take on Mayweather.
Williams should eventually overwhelm Cintron with pressure and volume. I thought Cintron barely beat a sick-looking Angulo, who’s a lot smaller and less busy than Williams. But I expect a good fight. I will be ringside at the Home Depot Center’s outdoor tennis arena this Saturday so don’t be a stranger if you see me.
Regarding Mayweather, I thought he fought his best fight since his junior lightweight days on Saturday, and I believe that he collected the most significant scalp of his hall-of-fame career. Mosley was rated higher pound-for-pound than any of Floyd’s other top wins (such as G. Hernandez, Hatton, Corrales, and De La Hoya -- who wasn’t P4P rated when he fought Mayweather).
I don’t rate him the best P4P based on that performance, but I believe one can make the argument. I think Mayweather has to beat Pacquiao to be the best. After the Pac-monster beat Clottey I didn’t think Mayweather had much of a shot of doing that because I didn’t believe he could hurt the Filipino star and would thus be soundly outworked over 12 rounds. However, the power and precision Mayweather exhibited versus Mosley changes my mind about Floyd’s ability to hurt Pacquiao. I think he can hurt Pac, and I view their fight as an even-money encounter.
And, yes, I know this opinion makes me the “ultimate hater” in the eyes of all Mayweather fans. So be it.
While, I’m playing the “hater” role I might as well express my opinion that I don’t believe that Margarito’s wraps were loaded for either of his fights with Cintron. Yeah, I know. I’m not just a “hater” I’m a hater with West Coast/Mexican bias.
YOU'RE STILL A HATER
dude, your a f___in idiot. the fight was boring? really? i thought it was an entertaining ass whoopin, and floyd was really close to knocking sugar shane out. i can picture you watching the fight with your lip puckered out and looking like a angry kid who just got yelled at by his mom. give floyd his props you jackass. he ''undressed'' sugar shane, and all you can say is '' boring''. your a hater. just admit it. -- Ivan
If I admit that I’m a hater, will you stop emailing me? I’M HATER! I’M A HATER!! HATE!!! HATE!!!!
Anyway, I may be a hater and I may very well be the f__in’ idiot you say I am. But that’s better than being the guy who hates the “hater,” reads the columns of an “idiot” and then actually takes the time out to EMAIL that “jackass” with his thoughts! That’s YOU, buddy!
How does it feel?
Get a grip, Ivan. If you thought Saturday’s fight was entertaining that’s fine. I have no problem with your opinion. I didn’t write that the fight was “boring.” I wrote that it was “rather uneventful” and I don’t think I was making things up.
The second round, when Mosley connected with that big right hand, was the only point in the fight when the crowd erupted in excitement and anticipation. The silence was deafening for the remainder of the fight. My fellow “hater” and “f___in’ idiot” Steve Kim likened the MGM’s Grand Garden Arena to a library during much of the fight and that was an apt description.
Regardless of how the crowd reacted to much of the fight, I thought Mayweather’s performance Saturday night was spectacular. I agree that he could have knocked Mosley out (or forced a stoppage), and I thought I gave him credit for his skill and heart in my column.
I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear to you.
Further more, the main point of my post-fight column was that Mosley was more to blame for the uneventful nature of the bout than Mayweather, so I’m not entirely sure why you’re up in arms.
FOR THE MAILBAG
Eat it. -- Stuey
I have no choice but to, Stu. Thanks for rubbing it in, though, d__k.
Ya gotta love Mayweather fans, folks. They don’t have their hero’s talent or money, but when it comes being nasty little malcontents they are just as much of p__k as he is.
By Doug FischerBuzz up!
YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT
Floyd Mayweather's fans are going to give you a extra big helping a Crow. I can't wait to read the Monday Morning Mailbag. I just didn't think without a jab he could win, and Shane doesn't move his head. He fought just like Senior said " all jittery and s__t". -- Big Swa
I hate to say it but Roger and Floyd Sr. were right about Shane Mosley‘s flaws and quirks. At the post-fight press conference Roger said Mosley “had no jab, and the jab is the key to boxing.” He and Senior are nasty old farts, but they know the sport inside and out and tell it like is.
They were right about Mosley as you were and, oh I don’t know, I’m guessing maybe 90 percent of my peers in the media.
As for the wrath of Mayweather’s fans, it comes with the territory. Thus far, it hasn’t been as bad as I expected, and even if it was, I can handle it. As I’ve said before Mayweather fans aren’t the legion that De La Hoya, Tyson, Lewis, and Jones Jr. fans were and over the past 10-15 years I’ve had to hear it from them when I picked their opponents to beat them in big fights.
For the record I had Vargas over De La Hoya and Rahman over Lewis in the rematch, and man, did their fans go off on me when their guy won. I never picked against Jones in a big fight, not until recently anyway, but his fans were still mad at me because I didn‘t “admit” that he was the G.O.A.T. (sound familiar?). And Tyson fans went nuts (and I mean that quite literally -- Zab Judah was one of his many faithful who actually threatened to kick my ass among other things) any time I suggested he needed to hang ’em up or picked someone to beat him (as I did in the Danny Williams fight).
Mayweather’s fans aren’t that bad. They’re just REALLY irritating. Like this guy…
GREAT CALL
Hey dude great call on your prediction on the Mayweather fight last night. You really nailed this one!- Juan
Thanks a lot, a__hole.
HE'S THE BEST, UGH!
Sorry Dougie,
I bet you're getting hammered by know-it-all/know-nothing Floyd fans. I hate him so much but... he's the best. After what I just saw... he kills PacMan. He's Barry Bonds without the ‘roids -- the best, I dislike him, and I wish he'd go away. Final props: he stood and fought. I can't believe it. He's retiring people.
On to next week: Who, if anyone, could have more to complain about Antonio Margarito than Kermit Cintron? The guy is fighting in what will be a great scrap. He should only have one ‘L’ on his record (to Sergio Martinez, who is p4p top 7). This fight takes place down the street from me, and I am “meh” about it. Any chance you'll be there? I'd love to finally meet you.
Paul Williams by UD. I haven't seen much power lately from Cintron and Williams throws more than Alfredo Angulo. -- Anthony
I agree with your Williams-Cintron prediction, and I partially agree with your take on Mayweather.
Williams should eventually overwhelm Cintron with pressure and volume. I thought Cintron barely beat a sick-looking Angulo, who’s a lot smaller and less busy than Williams. But I expect a good fight. I will be ringside at the Home Depot Center’s outdoor tennis arena this Saturday so don’t be a stranger if you see me.
Regarding Mayweather, I thought he fought his best fight since his junior lightweight days on Saturday, and I believe that he collected the most significant scalp of his hall-of-fame career. Mosley was rated higher pound-for-pound than any of Floyd’s other top wins (such as G. Hernandez, Hatton, Corrales, and De La Hoya -- who wasn’t P4P rated when he fought Mayweather).
I don’t rate him the best P4P based on that performance, but I believe one can make the argument. I think Mayweather has to beat Pacquiao to be the best. After the Pac-monster beat Clottey I didn’t think Mayweather had much of a shot of doing that because I didn’t believe he could hurt the Filipino star and would thus be soundly outworked over 12 rounds. However, the power and precision Mayweather exhibited versus Mosley changes my mind about Floyd’s ability to hurt Pacquiao. I think he can hurt Pac, and I view their fight as an even-money encounter.
And, yes, I know this opinion makes me the “ultimate hater” in the eyes of all Mayweather fans. So be it.
While, I’m playing the “hater” role I might as well express my opinion that I don’t believe that Margarito’s wraps were loaded for either of his fights with Cintron. Yeah, I know. I’m not just a “hater” I’m a hater with West Coast/Mexican bias.
YOU'RE STILL A HATER
dude, your a f___in idiot. the fight was boring? really? i thought it was an entertaining ass whoopin, and floyd was really close to knocking sugar shane out. i can picture you watching the fight with your lip puckered out and looking like a angry kid who just got yelled at by his mom. give floyd his props you jackass. he ''undressed'' sugar shane, and all you can say is '' boring''. your a hater. just admit it. -- Ivan
If I admit that I’m a hater, will you stop emailing me? I’M HATER! I’M A HATER!! HATE!!! HATE!!!!
Anyway, I may be a hater and I may very well be the f__in’ idiot you say I am. But that’s better than being the guy who hates the “hater,” reads the columns of an “idiot” and then actually takes the time out to EMAIL that “jackass” with his thoughts! That’s YOU, buddy!
How does it feel?
Get a grip, Ivan. If you thought Saturday’s fight was entertaining that’s fine. I have no problem with your opinion. I didn’t write that the fight was “boring.” I wrote that it was “rather uneventful” and I don’t think I was making things up.
The second round, when Mosley connected with that big right hand, was the only point in the fight when the crowd erupted in excitement and anticipation. The silence was deafening for the remainder of the fight. My fellow “hater” and “f___in’ idiot” Steve Kim likened the MGM’s Grand Garden Arena to a library during much of the fight and that was an apt description.
Regardless of how the crowd reacted to much of the fight, I thought Mayweather’s performance Saturday night was spectacular. I agree that he could have knocked Mosley out (or forced a stoppage), and I thought I gave him credit for his skill and heart in my column.
I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear to you.
Further more, the main point of my post-fight column was that Mosley was more to blame for the uneventful nature of the bout than Mayweather, so I’m not entirely sure why you’re up in arms.
FOR THE MAILBAG
Eat it. -- Stuey
I have no choice but to, Stu. Thanks for rubbing it in, though, d__k.
Ya gotta love Mayweather fans, folks. They don’t have their hero’s talent or money, but when it comes being nasty little malcontents they are just as much of p__k as he is.
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