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DUNDEE: Ortiz Beats Mayweather; Marquez Beats Pacquiao

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
    Over 5000 posts and you don't realise that styles make fights. I don't see how that makes sense lol
    Well, let me put it real simple like so you can understand my original post;

    What does Ortiz do better then Pac that would ever give him a better shot at beating Mayweather?

    I'll wait.

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    • #12
      Still waiting.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by AllEyesOpen View Post
        Well, let me put it real simple like so you can understand my original post;

        What does Ortiz do better then Pac that would ever give him a better shot at beating Mayweather?

        I'll wait.
        Physical dimensions. That is not a "do", but that matters for Floyd structurally.

        Floyd jabs Ortiz, Vic is kinda in range.

        Floyd jabs the illiterate congressman from out of range.

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        • #14
          This guy has to be pushing like 90 years old now? He was middle aged when he was training Ali ffs. Still a legend though.

          both floyd and pac are winning their next fights

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post
            Physical dimensions. That is not a "do", but that matters for Floyd structurally.

            Floyd jabs Ortiz, Vic is kinda in range.

            Floyd jabs the illiterate congressman from out of range.
            He is bigger, but stylistically i don't see Ortiz giving May more problems then Pac would.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post
              http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...ather-pacquiao



              Dundee offered his selections when asked about fights featuring WBC welterweight titleholder Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 knockouts) and Floyd Mayweather Jr. (41-0, 25 KOs), and, WBO welterweight beltholder Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 KOs) and WBA and WBO lightweight strap holder Juan Manuel Marquez (53-5-1, 39 KOs), respectively, on Sept. 17 and Nov. 12.

              "Tough fight. But if I had a fighter to choose to fight against Mayweather, it would be one who fights like Ortiz. Result? Tough, split-decision. But Ortiz may be the winner," said Dundee.

              "Marquez will give Pacquiao a tough fight every day that they're alive. Another tough fight, like I said. Probably Pacquiao's toughest fight, because Marquez is a guy who knows how to fight him. Decision, split, Marquez."

              As far as a potential bout between Mayweather and Pacquiao?

              "Mayweather wins. I just don't know why Mayweather's not fighting him," said Dundee. "He walks around saying that he's the best fighter in the world? Well, fight the sucker. I think that he beats Pacquiao."
              Dundee has been getting things wrong for the past 7-8 years so I wouldnt take him seriously.

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              • #17
                Neither Ortiz or JMM are getting a decision or a split decision for that matter over 2 of boxing's cash cow!

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                • #18
                  Dundee is a legend but as someone said i dont think he pays too much full on attention to the sport nowadays

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                  • #19
                    maybe if he it was 40 years ago n he was the trainer.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      Neither Ortiz or JMM are getting a decision or a split decision for that matter over 2 of boxing's cash cow!
                      that's a VERY interesting point right there!

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