Gaza celebrations!! What Palestinians were doing in Israel..

[squealpiggy]

Netanyahu wants war.

78% of israelis want a peaceful two-state solution.

[res]

Originally Posted by poet682006 View Post
I prefer liberty over bare subsistance material security and the slave collar that comes with it.

I agree.

Nevertheless bare subsistence material security is what the USA offers.

The UK provides free health care and housing for all.

Nothing wrong with enterprising work in my mind.

I'm not a fundamentalist.

Bin Laden is. Alan Greenspan is. The USA paid them both.

You missed the all important word "I" in Poet's post.

[res]

78% of israelis want a peaceful two-state solution.

I wonder what the Palestinian numbers are.

[StarshipTrooper]

i disagree. When you have a massive amount. When you earn say half a million in interest a year. ($50m in the bank lets say)

You can afford to give a little.

You can afford to, and if you freely choose to do so all credit to you; but coercing someone to cough it up is immoral whether they can "afford" to or not. The rich have as much right to their liberty as the poor. They do not suddenly forfeit their rights because they got rich.

Poet

[squealpiggy]

I wonder what the Palestinian numbers are.

74%

http://onevoicemovement.org/

[StarshipTrooper]

I wasn't being sarcastic you when you made the point.

Thats why i dropped the line of argument.

Ok, fair enough. I mistook that for sarcasm and I appologize for my sarcastic riposte. I guess I've gotten so used to sarcastic remarks on Boxing Scene that I respond reflexively.

Poet

[omarinbox]

78% of israelis want a peaceful two-state solution.

The problem is Netanyahu and the fact he is power.

Lieverman is there too.

The government is breaking every peace deal that was ever hashed out at a table both this term and last term.

Netanyahu breaks peace deals like he passes wind. Thats what the Palestinians see of Israel week in week out.

The hand of the state and not the hand of the people.

[res]

74%

http://onevoicemovement.org/

so 26% of Palestinians are frustrating the will of 74%?

Even curtailing their ability to publicly protest that other 26%

[omarinbox]

You can afford to, and if you freely choose to do so all credit to you; but coercing someone to cough it up is immoral whether they can "afford" to or not. The rich have as much right to their liberty as the poor. They do not suddenly forfeit their rights because they got rich.

Poet

I wouldn't mind a system like that. Thats why I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

People need to work with their neiighbours.

We need our ambulances and fire engines for everybody but they can be collectively organised and educated by choice.

Not too sure about armies and police. Don't like the state that much.

[StarshipTrooper]

I wouldn't mind a system like that. Thats why I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

People need to work with their neiighbours.

We need our ambulances and fire engines for everybody but they can be collectively organised and educated by choice.

Not too sure about armies and police. Don't like the state that much.

We have some common ground then. I don't like the state at all: Absolute power corrupts and I personally don't want anyone having power over me. I'm a Libertarian btw.

Poet