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  • How do you beat the test. That depends on which aspect of the test. If you are taking testosterone you need to take epitestosterone in order to keep you T/E ratio from going over the limit. However, occasionally an athlete will take too much epitestosterone and their T/E ratio will be too low.

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    • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
      Hauser as usual is INCORRECT. It is actually still on USADA's website. Hauser just didn't do his homework enough.

      http://www.usada.org/mayweather-vs-m...am-statistics/
      So, did they change it or what, and finally put something close to the truth? Didn't you see any discrepancy there? Your hero got tested six times and Mosley 8 times. Blood was taken twice from your idol and Mosley 4 times. Why?

      Strange part was the first blood taken was more than two weeks before the fight.

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      • Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe View Post
        when and if Floyd is ever caugh or admits to cheating we will then know he cheated, all we have now is questioning why he needed so much vitamin c just like we question why pac man refused testing, we can all have our speculations and throw out out theories but to our knowledge none of them have failed a test or was caught cheating. again.. get over it!
        get over it? I'll get over it...
        "to our knowledge none of them have failed a test or was caught cheating"?

        ... Well, Lance Armstrong also didn't fail testing for ten years... but, but, but...

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        • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
          How do you beat the test. That depends on which aspect of the test. If you are taking testosterone you need to take epitestosterone in order to keep you T/E ratio from going over the limit. However, occasionally an athlete will take too much epitestosterone and their T/E ratio will be too low.
          So where is your plot?

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          • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
            How do you beat the test. That depends on which aspect of the test. If you are taking testosterone you need to take epitestosterone in order to keep you T/E ratio from going over the limit. However, occasionally an athlete will take too much epitestosterone and their T/E ratio will be too low.
            So anyone who tests within WADA's acceptable norms is masking or only the people who beat Manny?

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            • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
              You don't even know what you are complaining about, son. Armstrong had confessed about blood doping, and in those early days they were not checking for EPOs like they do today. Hence, May-Pac; EPO, HGH, CIR. How much more bonafide anti doping tests do you need, especially from 2015 WADA accredited protocols?

              Every stupid excuse as usual. "If its not that it's gotta be this," etc.

              Give it a rest. The Gold medal goes to anyone that can prove masking EPO, CIR, and HGH from May 1st to May 2nd. That means a time frame of day when the blood is most CONCENTRATED from any theorized illegal substance would be easily detected. Again, you guys just being suckered into generalized out of context time framing.

              How much empiricial proof has Hauser, in one paragraph, at least given a theory of how Mayweather or Pac or ay boxer do it within a day? You can't!

              Get some rest yall.
              Floyd did out in the open what Lance Armstrong did with his doctors in hiding, for example. How convenient. So it does not matter what year it is when Floyd/USADA use TUEs to opt out of what is on the prohibited list. Right?

              Still, your statement is not accurate. We do not know what Floyd is doing exactly. He is not going to tell us but we do know for a fact that on several occasions, he has delayed testing 5-7 hours long. So it may be the delay that Floyd wanted or he was masking or a combination.

              You say its 2015, so testing has improved. In some ways yes but in some ways no. Studies have found that 1-2% got caught before and the stat still holds true in 2015.

              So for example EPO. Why was it used back then? Because they didn't have a test for it. So to say, they can be doing something else that is not detectable or even listed as prohibited. Also, as stated before, they can use EPO or other drugs when you have experience with the current protocol. Floyd has that experience. He has a very good idea of when USADA comes to test. Only during a short window during training and not much testing gets done close to the fight. Especially with blood. So athletes can microdose so that they can't get caught. If USADA comes unexpectedly sooner, delay as much as you can as FLoyd did.



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              Last edited by ADP02; 10-14-2015, 05:43 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
                So, did they change it or what, and finally put something close to the truth? Didn't you see any discrepancy there? Your hero got tested six times and Mosley 8 times. Blood was taken twice from your idol and Mosley 4 times. Why?
                No, they did not change it whatsoever as far as the Mosley fight. The only thing that happened was that about a year or so ago, USADA renovated/revamped their entire website. So obviously, there are old links that will no longer work and so forth. Only three fights got posted (Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto) on the old site.

                The way USADA things on their website now, results aren't really available, just the athletes and number of times they've tested them. Mayweather has been tested the most, 129 times. Next highest Danny Garcia at 89, Amir Khan at 58, Canelo Alvarez at 48, Miguel Cotto at 42, etc. This searchable listing didn't exist with their old website.

                http://www.usada.org/testing/results...-test-history/

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                • Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                  So anyone who tests within WADA's acceptable norms is masking or only the people who beat Manny?
                  A T/E ratio well below 1 is not normal. Its either a sign of a major endocrine issue or the masking of testosterone.

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                  • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                    So where is your plot?
                    You know you are obvious. You think you are a lot smarter than you actually are.

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                    • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                      A T/E ratio well below 1 is not normal. Its either a sign of a major endocrine issue or the masking of testosterone.
                      Well below 1 by whose standards? Pacquiao fans? Hasuer's?

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