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  • #11
    Originally posted by tennis-legend View Post
    ooh looky here another domination post about the ubermensch bros

    yes, haye was pathetic in the fight and didn't do anything
    yes, david haye is a disgrace to boxing

    however, didn't haye stand in front of a guy (who promised to knock him out) with his hands down?
    would david haye stand in front of tyson with his hands down?
    I actually like that: The Ubermensch Bros.

    Has a ring to it.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ChopperRead View Post
      I actually like that: The Ubermensch Bros.

      Has a ring to it.
      The term Übermensch was a favourite of Hitler and the Nazi regime, which borrowed from Nietzsche's work and sought to adopt him as a philosophical precursor. Their conception of the Übermensch, however, was racial in nature.The Nazi notion of the master race also spawned the idea of "inferior humans" (Untermenschen) which could be dominated and enslaved; this term does not originate with Nietzsche. Nietzsche himself was vehemently critical of both antisemitism and German nationalism.

      Dude was calling them Nazis.

      anyways, Ahmet Oner deserves to be shot in the face (again)

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Medved View Post
        The term Übermensch was a favourite of Hitler and the Nazi regime, which borrowed from Nietzsche's work and sought to adopt him as a philosophical precursor. Their conception of the Übermensch, however, was racial in nature.The Nazi notion of the master race also spawned the idea of "inferior humans" (Untermenschen) which could be dominated and enslaved; this term does not originate with Nietzsche. Nietzsche himself was vehemently critical of both antisemitism and German nationalism.

        Dude was calling them Nazis.

        anyways, Ahmet Oner deserves to be shot in the face (again)

        LOL. I know what the ubermensch means. It translates as The Superman Bros (or the Overman Bros) , so I like it.

        I've read lots of Nietzsche. The fact that the Nazis tried to hijack his terminology doesn't invalidate it. The true Ubermensch doesn't need to subject others to his will, so that leaves the Nazis out.

        Oner is one of the most loathesome creeps in boxing. Tried to punch a blonde German girl in the head at the Vitali fight when she blew off his sleazy advances. Nice guy.
        Last edited by ChopperRead; 08-11-2011, 07:59 AM.

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        • #14
          I hope Haye doesnt retire,there are some really good fights too be made with the smaller heavyweights-Adamek,Solis,Haye,Povetkin etc i can think of some really good match ups between those lot once Adamek gets beaten by vitali

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          • #15
            Originally posted by SP1 View Post
            Somebody needs to take a break. It was a crap fight between two of the worst HW champions of all time. Whoops.
            Sounds like sour grapes to me from a ******ed Gayevid lover, first you pick him to beat Wlad by devasting KO, now you are throwing your hero under the bus...typical behaviour by a Klitschko hater...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Medved View Post
              The term Übermensch was a favourite of Hitler and the Nazi regime, which borrowed from Nietzsche's work and sought to adopt him as a philosophical precursor. Their conception of the Übermensch, however, was racial in nature.The Nazi notion of the master race also spawned the idea of "inferior humans" (Untermenschen) which could be dominated and enslaved; this term does not originate with Nietzsche. Nietzsche himself was vehemently critical of both antisemitism and German nationalism.

              Dude was calling them Nazis.

              anyways, Ahmet Oner deserves to be shot in the face (again)

              A very informative and good post.

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              • #17
                The Klitschkos would make very strange Nazis, seeing as how Hitler considered the East Europeans the untermenschen.

                Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazi racial ideology used it to describe "inferior people", especially "the masses from the East," that is Jews, Gypsies, Poles along with other Slavic people like the Russians, Serbs, Belarussians and Ukrainians.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp View Post
                  Sounds like sour grapes to me from a ******ed Gayevid lover, first you pick him to beat Wlad by devasting KO, now you are throwing your hero under the bus...typical behaviour by a Klitschko hater...
                  Haye has gone from heavyweight savior to "one of the worst champions of all time" in record time!

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by William Blake View Post
                    I have no interest in seeing David Haye again. Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison, Wladimir...all were terrible fights. I can't believe this clown actually unified the crusierweight division- must have been exceptionally weak.

                    I'll be downing a pint or two on his birthday/ retirement party in celebration. Good riddance.
                    His win against Enzo is highly overrated. Enzo has been proven to have zero chin, just look at his record now, it's horrible.

                    Haye has yet to be in a dogfight with a seriously tough heavyweight. Put him in there with Arreola and I guarantee you he runs the whole time.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Medved View Post
                      The term Übermensch was a favourite of Hitler and the Nazi regime, which borrowed from Nietzsche's work and sought to adopt him as a philosophical precursor. Their conception of the Übermensch, however, was racial in nature.The Nazi notion of the master race also spawned the idea of "inferior humans" (Untermenschen) which could be dominated and enslaved; this term does not originate with Nietzsche. Nietzsche himself was vehemently critical of both antisemitism and German nationalism.

                      Dude was calling them Nazis.

                      anyways, Ahmet Oner deserves to be shot in the face (again)
                      The master race bolloxs is a myth, it's war time black propaganda. If you actually search for any National Socialist leaders talking about the 'master race' then the only mention of it you will find is from Himmler talking sarcastically about it when going over what the British propaganda machine was labeling the Germans.

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