Leonard Ellerbe: "Yet another example of Bob Arum trying to run misdirection"

[Bullrider]

Three years. Same stupid arguments. As if people will change their minds.

[tatangb45]

Again you fail to grasp the point of my post.

What good would a test do if it does not determine if an athlete is really clean in the first place? The USADA/Floyd version of the test is useless. It's a waste of time and money!

If they don't follow strictly the WADA rule, then there is no point of doing the testing.

Does that make it clearer now?

Sorry. This is supposed to be addressed to Kenny.

[tatangb45]

According to WADA's rule, the 6 weeks testing period that the USADA used for testing in the FLOYD/Shane fight, is inaccurate and inefficient.

That kind of testing is useless and will not show accurately whether a boxer is juicing.

To be accurate, WADA rule says that random testing must be for 18 months (78 weeks).

!8 months= the average length of time between Floyd fights.

Here it is once more for those who still do not get it. Read and digest it very carefully.

[Kenny MF Powers]

Sorry. This is supposed to be addressed to Kenny.

Let me make this easy for you. Obviously USADA or WADA thought it was acceptable or they wouldve declined to handle testing. They have a reputation they would like to uphold. If they felt what they were doing would in some way jeopardize the credibility of their Olympic testing standard Im sure they would have passed it off to another lab or agency.

On top of that, are we talking about the Olympics? Or a pro athlete looking to insure he has a fair fight with someone he is suspicious of?

Maybe you should ask USADA/WADA your questions..? Unless of course you think they would laugh at you and not give you a serious answer...

[Kenny MF Powers]

Let me make this easy for you. Obviously USADA or WADA thought it was acceptable or they wouldve declined to handle testing. They have a reputation they would like to uphold. If they felt what they were doing would in some way jeopardize the credibility of their Olympic testing standard Im sure they would have passed it off to another lab or agency.

On top of that, are we talking about the Olympics? Or a pro athlete looking to insure he has a fair fight with someone he is suspicious of?

Maybe you should ask USADA/WADA your questions..? Unless of course you think they would laugh at you and not give you a serious answer...

One more question, are you saying that you think no testing at all is better than even a shortened version of Olympic testing?

Unless you want to admit that Pac camp might have something to hide... If its so useless then the testing issue would be done and over with. Testing done, fight done, moving on for the rematch... But no, someone around Pac thinks differently.

[Real Floyd]

that still doesn't explain why you need extra tests to a one dimensional fighter who fought nothing but bums.

for 40 fights the guy didn't even think of ost until the amateurish boxer came along.

I agree Floyd does think Pac is a dangerous fight regardless of the fighting bums comments. Still no one turns down a blood test if there clean, especially for a huge amount of money. Also Pac seems to have gotten stronger as he has moved up in weight. Your argument is basically Floyd would not ask Pacquiao to take the tests if he thought he was amateurish. This is about about Floyd's thoughts as pacman as a fighter, nothing to do with the whether or not he shoots up. If your clean you take a blood test, if your not you don't-simple as that.

[tatangb45]

One more question, are you saying that you think no testing at all is better than even a shortened version of Olympic testing?

Unless you want to admit that Pac camp might have something to hide... If its so useless then the testing issue would be done and over with. Testing done, fight done, moving on for the rematch... But no, someone around Pac thinks differently.

You still don't get, do you?

The WADA rule is very clear. If the testing period is less than 18 months, it is inefficient and inaccurate. It does not address the very vital issue of cycling, a loophole that WADA wants to close.

The USADA/Floyd version of testing is useless and a waste of time and Money! Whoever they interviewed from WADA either overlooked that vital component of WADA's rule, or is not well versed on their own rules.

IF FLOYD REALLY WANTS AN ACCURATE TESTING, THEN HE AND THE USADA MUST STRICTLY FOLLOW WADA's RULES!

Floyd fights at an average of 18 months apart. That, to any objective individual, is a GLARING RED FLAG. The USADA ignored it and accepted Floyd's version of a mere 6/8 weeks period of testing!

[Kenny MF Powers]

You still don't get, do you?

The WADA rule is very clear. If the testing period is less than 18 months, it is inefficient and inaccurate. It does not address the very vital issue of cycling, a loophole that WADA wants to close.

The USADA/Floyd version of testing is useless and a waste of time and Money! Whoever they interviewed from WADA either overlooked that vital component of WADA's rule, or is not well versed on their own rules.

IF FLOYD REALLY WANTS AN ACCURATE TESTING, THEN HE AND THE USADA MUST STRICTLY FOLLOW WADA's RULES!

Floyd fights at an average of 18 months apart. That, to any objective individual, is a GLARING RED FLAG. The USADA ignored it and accepted Floyd's version of a mere 6/8 weeks period of testing!

Cool story bro, or cool opinion I should say.

Maybe you should ask WADA or USADA what they think about Floyd, and what they think about the testing done for the Mosley fight? I wouldnt recommend it though, you arent gonna like what you hear.

Or... you can just continue to post your opinions as fact and dodge any opposition that attempts to come back at you with questions.

Or... you could realize that Floyd isnt trying to catch anyone roiding at all, he just wants the deterring factor of random testing being used for the fight.

Why do you think hes not in court trying to prove Pac is on roids? Cause he cant prove it, he is suspicious though, as are the large majority of fans. He just wants to make sure Pac isnt on roids when they fight. I really dont think he gives a **** what Pac does outside of their fight. Thats obvious.

Team Pac will do anything to avoid a drug test, thats more than a red flag, and unfortunately for Manny its his name and honor being dragged through the mud by Arum. I personally feel Manny to an extent is a victim in all this, not by Floyd though, but by Arum and those associated with him. I think Manny would gladly take the test and fight Floyd, but for some reason daddy Arum dont want it...

Why cant some of you guys see it for what it is?

[americanbot]

You still don't get, do you?

The WADA rule is very clear. If the testing period is less than 18 months, it is inefficient and inaccurate. It does not address the very vital issue of cycling, a loophole that WADA wants to close.

The USADA/Floyd version of testing is useless and a waste of time and Money! Whoever they interviewed from WADA either overlooked that vital component of WADA's rule, or is not well versed on their own rules.

IF FLOYD REALLY WANTS AN ACCURATE TESTING, THEN HE AND THE USADA MUST STRICTLY FOLLOW WADA's RULES!

Floyd fights at an average of 18 months apart. That, to any objective individual, is a GLARING RED FLAG. The USADA ignored it and accepted Floyd's version of a mere 6/8 weeks period of testing!

this is why I'm here to answer ret@rds such as this.......

it's not a USADA/floyd version of testing you moron. it's randomized test that includes blood & urine up till the day of the fight (if need be) don't speak for what u *THINK* wada wants (wada has already given a full interview so theres no need for that)


wada has already stated that USADA is the MOST reliable & efficient rout that both pac & mayweather can go when it comes to detecting peds in the sport of boxing.

WADA THEMSELVES HAVE SAID THAT THE USADA WAY IS THE BEST WAY IN THIS SITUATION. it's not about being tested for 5 years yr round none stop. it's about REDUCING & giving yourself the greatest possibilty for a level playing field....sportsmenship at it's highest level that USADA & wada can provide......wada has ALREADY APPROVED the test that manny and floyd will go through. also boxers don't train for 18 months u moron. again. FOR MANNY & FLOYDS SITUATION (AS BOXERS) WADA THEMSELVES HAVE STATED THAT USADA WILL BE THE KING FOR THIS JOB (what more do you WANT loser)

pacfarts such as yourself FIND ANY & EVERYWAY to get out of testing MAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It's almost sad to see how desperate ret@rds can get.

[megas30]

What about "let the commission do their job?" The same commission that is entirely American was so trustworthy before.